fypoadmin
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11 years ago um, I think I'll hold off until you've talked to Jacky, 'cos I'm a little confused by this initial request ...
Original comment by: mah11
Closed fypoadmin closed 9 years ago
fypoadmin
commented
11 years ago um, I think I'll hold off until you've talked to Jacky, 'cos I'm a little confused by this initial request ...
Original comment by: mah11
fypoadmin
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10 years ago germinated spores swollen dumbbell shaped
yep this is the phenotype. Jacky drew a small spore which doesn't elongate (it never looks like a vegetative cell, just looked like a small dumbbell). So, this is a different dumbbell to FYPO:0000779 FYPO:0001006
but it does apply to the same genes....
Original comment by: ValWood
fypoadmin
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10 years ago my notes say: essential misshapen spore, dumbbell shaped with swollen ends (normal length)
It never looks like a proper cell because the conjugation tube doesn't form
Original comment by: ValWood
fypoadmin
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10 years ago Wait to do this one to. There are some inconsistencies. I will report back
Original comment by: ValWood
fypoadmin
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10 years ago The term request is fine. I wanted to know why other cdc8 deletion was different but the other cdc8 was a disruption rather than a deletion
Original comment by: ValWood
fypoadmin
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10 years ago So, to follow the pattern of existing terms, should I add:
inviable after spore germination, without cell division, swollen dumbbell-shaped cell ?
Also, 'inviable elongated dumbbell-shaped cell' (FYPO:0000779) has the comment "Note that all dumbbell-shaped cells observed are also elongated. ...". Should that change?
Original comment by: mah11
fypoadmin
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10 years ago not sure, it seems so but shouldn't swollen, by definition be both "longer" and "wider"
Checking with Jacky again.
v
Original comment by: ValWood
fypoadmin
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10 years ago Generic "swollen" is defined as "larger volume than normal", without saying anything about longer vs wider vs both.
Original comment by: mah11
fypoadmin
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10 years ago Ah OK, I think of swollen as also being longer+wider. Thats not tru for a large rounded cell is is? But if a normal shape cell is both longer+wider that = swollen?
Original comment by: ValWood
fypoadmin
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10 years ago tbh, I haven't really thought properly about rounded/spheroid cells ...
certainly I'd call a cell swollen if it's longer+wider, but same length:width ratio as wt
I'm less sure that I wouldn't call a higher-volume rounded cell swollen too ... but I'm not a lifelong pombologist ;)
Original comment by: mah11
fypoadmin
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10 years ago we also have "swollen spheroid" terms (for [fission-yeast-phenotype:#800])
Original comment by: mah11
fypoadmin
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10 years ago OK, I've added this:
inviable after spore germination, without cell division, swollen dumbbell-shaped cell FYPO:0002987
and amended the comment on FYPO:0000779 so it says "usually" instead of "all dumbbells".
If that sorts everything, I'll close this.
Original comment by: mah11
fypoadmin
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10 years ago Original comment by: mah11
fypoadmin
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10 years ago I know you'll open a new ticket if you need anything else ;)
Original comment by: mah11
I still have a note that I need
"germinated spores swollen dumbbell shaped" (I think this phenotype is elongated, but also wide so it is classed as swollen)
I think this is describing the same genes that Antonia submitted a ticket about the other day is related to the ticket Antonia submitted the other day (I looked for it but I can't find it, possibly cdc8?). We should compare both phenotypes to make sure that they are the same. I'll put this in the "questions for jacky"
Original comment by: ValWood