Closed mah11 closed 4 years ago
I've started this by getting the information into a new section on the gene page and making a simple diagram. I need suggestions for how to format things, especially all the coordinates.
Here's what I've got on my desktop:
Live version: http://desktop.kmr.nz:4242/gene/SPCC285.08
@JackyVH @bahler
Hi Jurg, Jacky, could you ask your teams and provide any input (suggestions/requests) for this feature. (I will stage Juan too once I have a Git handle)
@juanmatacambridge
Thanks Val. I've implemented some of those suggestions. Now if you mouse-over part of the diagram it highlights the coordinates below, and vice versa. I'm still working on the rest of your list.
Here's the version on my desktop (until 1pm or so): http://desktop.kmr.nz:4242/gene/SPAC1296.04
It doesn't look so good for transcripts with lots of exons: http://desktop.kmr.nz:4242/gene/SPAC22F3.03c
Perhaps we do not need to specify the intron coordinates if we provide the exon coordinates.
If it helps, we could format the table like this (but with transcript coordinates):
I was imagining "exon number" aligned underneath the image, it doesn't really work on the exon itself. However, I don't think numbering the exons is necessary now because the number is clear from the reciprocal mouse over (which is great)
I like the 2 column version for exons and introns. Much easier to scan to see the actual feature coordinates, but intron coordinates are there if you really want them, and it will be aesthetically more pleasing.
I was imagining "exon number" aligned underneath the image,
I think that will be tricky, especially for transcripts with lots of exons.
However, I don't think numbering the exons is necessary now because the number is clear from the reciprocal mouse over
Great, I'll remove the numbering.
I like the 2 column version for exons and introns.
I'll implement that. The screenshot was only a mock-up.
Great, I'll remove the numbering.
I'll implement that. The screenshot was only a mock-up.
Both of those are done now: http://desktop.kmr.nz:4242/gene/SPCC18B5.06
It looks great but I'm a bit confused - shouldn't exon 1 start @ 729054?
we should label as "coding exon"
Should we display genomic coordinates or transcript coordinates by default?
we should label as "coding exon" or would that be weird... because the 5' UTR is still part of the coding exon. But we need some way to refer to the CDS part of an exon split between a UTR and a coding region...
It looks great but I'm a bit confused - shouldn't exon 1 start @ 729054?
I think you're right.
we should label as "coding exon" or would that be weird... because the 5' UTR is still part of the coding exon.
We should chat about exactly how to label things. We also need to handle cases like SPAC1039.01 where there are introns in a UTR.
Should we display genomic coordinates or transcript coordinates by default?
I vote for the genomic coordinates as I think they are more useful.
Can't we label exons and introns independently of where the UTRs and CDS are, and then label 5'-UTR and 3'-UTR and CDS? The exons should be whatever is left in the mature mRNA, irrespective of whether they contain coding or non-coding sequences (for example, SPAC1039.01. contains non-coding exons). In the case of SPAC1039.01.1 the first exon would be 5444360-5444400, exon 2 would be 5444448-5445123 , etc I agree with usin genomic coordinates by default
It looks great but I'm a bit confused - shouldn't exon 1 start @ 729054?
After a bit of discussion we decided the quick temporary fix is to explain things better. So now the exons are labelled "exon CDS" and a slightly longer text pops up to help. We'll work on this because it would be nice to show the coordinates of the coding and non-coding parts of the exons.
Should we display genomic coordinates or transcript coordinates by default?
We now display the genomic coordinates by default with a checkbox to change to transcript coordinates:
@kimrutherford will future-proof it to support multiple transcripts
It should work OK with multiple transcripts but we might want to reformat things a bit. We should revisit when there are multi-transcript genes in the database.
I forgot to say that this is still only in my local version of the site: http://desktop.kmr.nz:4242/gene/SPAC13A11.04c
I like the checkbox to change the coordinates.
It would be good to try it for more complex transcripts - maybe rem1, which shows intron retention in early meiosis?
It would be good to try it for more complex transcripts - maybe rem1, which shows intron retention in early meiosis?
The display for rem1 isn't very interesting at the moment:
I don't think it's been annotated - the first intron is spliced specifically in late meiosis
We would not show annotate intron retention here, this is just the gene structure.
Later we will annotate alternative transcripts, but not intron retention as a regulation mechanism. At least that is not something that is on our radar for the near future.
This one is not just intron retention as regulatory mechanism, because the spliced and unspliced forms have separate functions. But I agree we may not want to deal with them here
OK I can add that one to rem1 to our list of alternative transcripts to describe.
I added rem1 to a table of known alternative transcripts to test the system on" https://github.com/pombase/curation/issues/61 do you have a PMID?
Still needed here:
Key is required but we can put this in the available space at the end.
We could at least but the start and end coordinates on the figure
Anything else?
I can't remember what it looks like and your test server is down.
Do we have the transcript coordinates on mouse-over or did people feel that was not important?
I'm happy for it to go live when the 3 above are done anyway because it is useful as it is.
ping me on #1582 if it's ready for documenation (will be nice to have a screenshot for it)
The test server is up again now.
Do we have the transcript coordinates on mouse-over or did people feel that was not important?
I've added a "Show transcript coords" checkbox to toggle the coordinates.
I'm happy for it to go live when the 3 above are done anyway because it is useful as it is.
OK, I'll work on 1 and 2 and then let Midori know when it's ready for a screenshot and documentation.
That looks nice!
Agree!
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That looks nice!
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very nice!
start and end coordinates on the figure
Having tried this I'm not sure it helps. The start and end are in the "Location:" bit just above the graphic. It looks a bit redundant having the start and end a second time. Does anyone have a strong opinion about this? Here's how it looks before and after:
yes agreed, it's easy to see in the table. Sorry about that...
yes agreed, it's easy to see in the table. Sorry about that...
No problem. I'm working on adding a key and then it's probably ready for screenshots and docs.
I'm working on adding a key and then it's probably ready for screenshots and docs.
I've added a key and moved the coordinate system toggle button to the top right:
Please let me know if there are any changes I should make before doing screenshots.
looks good, again with the explicit labelling, probably not even necessary?
Not sure I understand this from Val
again with the explicit labelling, probably not even necessary?
... but I think it looks fine now and will go ahead with documentation.
p.s. I like the new toggle button placement
... but I think it looks fine now and will go ahead with documentation.
Thanks.
p.s. I like the new toggle button placement
Cheers. I thought it made sense to put it there as future-proofing for when we have multiple transcripts.
OK, I've committed some documentation.
OK, I've committed some documentation.
Thanks. The transcript section will be visible on the main site in the morning.
I'm going to close this issue. We can open new issues for any problems.
At long last we have thought of good reasons to add a transcript section back to gene pages - there's nowhere else to show:
also include transcript type (mRNA, ncRNA … any others?) even though it's also at top of page
@kimrutherford will future-proof it to support multiple transcripts
also some discussion in chat to the effect that protein features will probably remain associated only with main version of transcript; can rethink later (which is good because I don't think I caught all the details)
successor to #350