post-kerbin-mining-corporation / HeatControl

Adds more radiators to Kerbal Space Program
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Suggestion: More varied parts #4

Open pyalot opened 8 years ago

pyalot commented 8 years ago

There is one other mod that dabbles with heat control components (https://kerbalstuff.com/mod/723/Heat%20Management) and they offer basically 3 classes of inline parts:

I think that's a cool combination of parts that're more varied than just radiators.

I'd suggest as food for further thought the following parts for heat control:

I'm sure some of these ideas make little sense, and there might be many ideas I missed, just some thoughts.

ChrisAdderley commented 8 years ago

Yes some of these are probably planned. Heat insulators (aka thermal washers), for example, were in the previous versions (0.1ish). I removed them for 2 reasons - one that 1.05's active radiators don't really care where a part is. If you have radiators on your ship, an insulator isn't as useful. The second is that the models weren't that good looking. They might come back with some new models in the future.

Heatsinks I feel have limited utility at the moment. I have mixed opinions of this, but I just don't see the point in investing model effort there right now.

Re: open cycle systems. I did want to do a few types at some point, including ones that worked on local atmosphere, ones that worked on local liquids, and ones that worked on evaporative principles. So that way you would be able to represent the full set of nuclear cooling options, radiators, evaporative cooling towers and heat exchange with local water. It would make it a lot easier to build surface reactors and airborne reactors than relying on fragile radiators.

Waste heat generators - check for a seebek generator mod. Someone made this and I have no plans to do that.

Things like coolers and heaters I would also not hope for - they would need a purpose vs a theoretical purpose. As far as I'm aware there aren't any stock or mod parts that have such specific temperature ranges to act on.

pyalot commented 8 years ago

If you have radiators on your ship, an insulator isn't as useful.

An insulator can be quite useful if you have a (potentially) hot part, you'd like to insulate from a part that's got a lower heat tolerance. For instance, a rockets nosecone might get quite hot due to convective heating, and that heat will percolate trough any attached part, regardless if you have a radiator or not. Now if one of the attached parts happens to be say, a lander can, it can be problematic because of the large difference in heat tolerance of a nosecone and the lander can.

Heatsinks I feel have limited utility at the moment. I have mixed opinions of this, but I just don't see the point in investing model effort there right now.

I've experimented quite a bit with the heatsinks from the heat management mod, and after not understanding their use at all, I came around to appreciate them quite a bit. So one of the things they're quite handy for is to attach them to parts that might get hot, but for which you do not have immediately enough cooling capacity. They can act as a buffer to soak up some heat till you can get rid of it. If your mission profile does not include continuously high heat production but occasional hotspots (like re-entry) that can be quite useful. Another use that's quite odd is basically a design like that:

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Here I'm using a heatsink less for its capacity to soak up heat (though that certainly helps) and more for its capacity to quickly transfer heat from the skin to internal. Once internal, the large cooling capacity of the AHMS comes to bear on it. This allows you to fly at high speeds trough atmosphere for extended periods of time (albeit at the edge of overheat of everything).

In a similar fashion, (altough much more extreme) you can use the heatsink as a heat shield from radiation. If you stack the biggest (by mass and surface area) heatsink behind a whole tower of AHMS'es and top it off with another tower of nuclear power plants, it's actually feasible to go into a 600km above the sun orbit (because the heatsink is so good in soaking heat into internal from skin).