Couch-persona / firebase / meteor type thing

[daleharvey]

So this is rather vague, but it could be pretty exciting

Typically open source projects like this aim at developers at the low level, to really use pouch in a production system you need to deal with all sorts of stuff, setting up a couchdb instance, dealing with users auth etc

I want to think about pouch more like a startup, my benchmark being, how easy can we go from hearing about pouch, to taking a client side app like http://todomvc.com/, and have it work offline, have users login and have it magically sync

I tested this with http://done.gd/ (code https://github.com/daleharvey/done), and I think we can make it very easy, this splits up into lots of different things

• Clean up the code for https://github.com/daleharvey/done, use http://tobiasahlin.com/spinkit/ for the spinner (the last circle one, mostly to get the code into css instead of js), use the .sync api and turn it into the new getting started guide on http://pouchdb.com/getting-started.html
• Make persona work (in dev mode) offline, probably via a wrapper and a little debug mode on the server, annoys the hell out of me that I have to be online to dev (https://github.com/mozilla/persona/issues/4074)
• Make done.gd / todomvc a mobile web app (make the css responsive and give it an appcache
• Right now I needed to have run the couchdb and couch-persona myself, also if I use the same host for another project the users data is gonna get mixed up, have some form of developer key provisioning, I want anyone to be able to use http://persona.pouchdb.com/ to set up a app for themselves to test out (and I want it to be easy to provision their own server for real use)
• Get PouchDB on http://todomvc.com/

[daleharvey]

Also a good idea would be to take a look at the sign up / ramp up process for firebase / meteor and get an idea of how simple I would like it to be to start using pouch

[daleharvey]

So another way to think about this is, instead of thinking about it as a service type thing, I want people to be able to do the getting-started tutorial (http://pouchdb.com/getting-started.html) without having to install couchdb and all that stuff themselves

I want a lightweight, no guarantees, your data may dissapear at any moment server on somename.pouchdb.com so people can start playing with this stuff asap

[daleharvey]

On that note, I dont think we would merge an offline mode for persona into daleharvey/done, I think its worth doing and I would use it elsewhere, but I think it would complicate that code that should be as simple as possible

Maciej you mentioned you dont like todomvc as a based due to it being complicated, I dont disagree that as a first contact with pouchdb it is large, however this is replacing a home brew version I had written, the reason I prefer this is

• Its established, people recognise it and no what it is, its not some new fancy app which we done care about, its the technology we want to focus on
• The code is fairly well seperated / simple, we have some code in https://github.com/daleharvey/done/blob/gh-pages/js/app.js, and https://github.com/daleharvey/done/blob/gh-pages/js/store.pouchdb.js, in terms of telling people with an existing app 'this is all that needs to change' thats a pretty good story
• Its a real app, its not great or anything, but you can look at it like its a real application that uses real technology as opposed to some unmaintained side project tech demo

I think its the perfect example of "this is how to take a simple app and get it syncing", calling that "getting started" is probably wrong / ambitious, but we can just not call it that

[daleharvey]

underway @ https://github.com/pouchdb/janus