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Unified Request Flow for Server-side Auctions #9

Closed suprajasekhar closed 1 year ago

suprajasekhar commented 2 years ago

Could the proposed Bidding and Auction Services API potentially pose the following challenges:

We wonder if this idea of using trusted servers to execute remarketing auction and bidding functions can be better integrated with the existing real-time bidding data flows.

For instance, the traditional ad requests from the client to an exchange and in turn the traditional bid requests from the exchange to bidders could include a user’s private interest group data that is encrypted by the client (such as Chrome browser or Android), such that only the trusted server can decrypt and process such data, along with contextual signals about the current site or app.

The same trust model outlined in FLEDGE services overview could be used to verifiably enforce that the encrypted interest group data can only be used as intended in FLEDGE auctions:

cshmerling commented 2 years ago

Thanks for your feedback. There is a lot to unpack in your post so I will call out the questions we are attempting to address, and then provide the response.

Q: "Increased network bandwidth from the additional data flows introduced between the ad techs, client and the Bidding and Auction Services API."

A: Bidding and Auction services will optimize for overall end-to-end latency. Bidding & Auction services reduce the number of network communications compared to on-device FLEDGE to one umbrella request between client and server, with server <-> server communications in the cloud. The overall flow, we believe, is analogous to how sell-side and buy-side servers interact today. We are aware that the current design requires data to be sent from client to server and we are designing ways to optimize the umbrella payload.

Q: Increased end user latency due to the sequential network requests for the execution of the contextual and remarketing auction and bidding functions.

A:Bidding and Auction services is an optimization for on-device FLEDGE. The current architecture is designed for that use case. At the moment, we are not exploring architecture beyond the performance optimization use case.

Q: High adoption and maintenance costs of ad tech arising from the new integrations, disjoint from the existing real-time bidding data flows.

A: Privacy Sandbox does introduce some paradigm shifts that will require new integrations to be built. However, these shifts bring privacy benefits to the end user.

dynamix commented 1 year ago

I think the design @suprajasekhar suggests is an improvement on the current design in several ways.

The current FLEDGE proposal does not work in practise without a contextual auction happening first. The contextual auction provides the channel to communicate which buyer wants to participate in the on-device auction and give the chance to provide buyer specific data related to the context to the bidding function.

As the buyer does not know if one of the custom audiences he defined is active on the device, he will need to respond with his intention to participate in the on-device auction and the additional buyer data every single time.

The bidding and auction service does not improve upon this, as it only passes the seller auction config.

A:Bidding and Auction services is an optimization for on-device FLEDGE. The current architecture is designed for that use case. At the moment, we are not exploring architecture beyond the performance optimization use case.

Given that FLEDGE is still being work in progress and the explainer states "While this explainer talks about just the remarketing flow with Bidding & Auction Services, we plan to update and publish an extension of this proposal for unifying the contextual and remarketing flow." this proposal already seems to go in the right direction - overall latency / performance would benefit, resource efficiency too.

It would be great if not just "performance" is considered but the later, too. Due to:

Privacy Sandbox does introduce some paradigm shifts that will require new integrations to be built. However, these shifts bring privacy benefits to the end user.

In the end remarkting/reengagment campaigns need to be economically viable under the new paradigm. If this is not the case all the effort on the design and implementation side is wasted. FLEDGE will see no adoption and the impact will be worse than ATT, at least on Android.

Currently there are several features that directly reduce the economical viability:

Without some attention to economical viability on the buy and sell side, it is likely that the majority of what works now will be net negative under FLEDGE. 🤷

chatterjee-priyanka commented 1 year ago

I am closing this since B&A supports the unified flow. We will discuss about more optimizations to the architecture in the future. Thanks!