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🆕 Software Suggestion | Infinity Search #1584

Open Mikaela opened 4 years ago

Mikaela commented 4 years ago

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Name: Infinity Search Category: Search Engines URL: https://infinitysearch.co/

Description

They are marketing on our forum so I think it might be worth it to investigate them and whether to include them and if we decide to not do that, we will probably have valuable suggestions for them that they are likely interested in.

Mikaela commented 4 years ago

https://gitlab.com/infinitysearch/infinity-search via https://forum.privacytools.io/t/were-a-privacy-search-engine-and-we-just-went-fully-open-source/2264?u=mikaela

Mikaela commented 4 years ago

Answers to questions that @LizMcIntyre asked: https://forum.privacytools.io/t/were-a-privacy-search-engine-and-we-just-went-fully-open-source/2264/28?u=mikaela

Current situation seems to be that they cannot release ownership information due to not having an office and thus having privacy concern with publishing home address of the owner?

ian-tedesco commented 4 years ago

IMO it is pretty good and they have handle everything in a very responsible way, the only problem is that it is still in beta and I doubt anyone would use it in such state. But if it ever becomes a fully functional search engine it could beat everyone out there.

gary-host-laptop commented 4 years ago

They have updated their GUI recently and it looks much nicer and stable, I think it can fit within worth mentioning as of now, the project is still on development so this can be updated when it becomes more functional.

nitrohorse commented 4 years ago

A couple of things worth noting:

Comments about their service can be found here.

ian-tedesco commented 4 years ago

A couple of things worth noting:

* Since: 2019

* Type: Hobby Project?

* Jurisdiction: USA

* SSL Labs score: [A](https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=infinitysearch.co)

* Mozilla Observatory score: [F](https://observatory.mozilla.org/analyze/infinitysearch.co)

* IP Logging: No

* 3rd-Party Trackers: No

* Onion Service: No

* POST Request support: Yes

* DNSSEC support: No

* IPv6 support: No

* HSTS support: No

* Disabled JavaScript support: Yes

* Onion Captchas: No

* Filters Adult Content: No

* Offers Proxy Service: No

* [Open-source](https://gitlab.com/infinitysearch)

Comments about their service can be found here.

Do you think some of these are necessary for a search engine to be listed? Onion Service: No POST Request support: Yes DNSSEC support: No IPv6 support: No HSTS support: No

They are currently working on a proxy server, creating their own crawler/index, and they have also answered QtASK.

nitrohorse commented 4 years ago

Do you think some of these are necessary for a search engine to be listed?

Not necessarily, just worth noting for visibility. Given that the project is still relatively new, I'd personally I'd like to see DNSSEC, IPv6, and HSTS support, with a higher Mozilla Observatory score but I realize we currently don't have any set criteria for search engines like we have for Email and VPN providers (which is something that would be great to have and hold our listed engines to - worth tracking in a separate issue :thinking:).

Regarding QtASK--it's still a work-in-progress along with how we'll integrate them into our review process so not a guarantee of getting listed, but it's good to see Infinity Search willing to answer them. :+1:

ian-tedesco commented 4 years ago

Do you think some of these are necessary for a search engine to be listed?

Not necessarily, just worth noting for visibility. Given that the project is still relatively new, I'd personally I'd like to see DNSSEC, IPv6, and HSTS support, with a higher Mozilla Observatory score but I realize we currently don't have any set criteria for search engines like we have for Email and VPN providers (which is something that would be great to have and hold our listed engines to - worth tracking in a separate issue thinking).

Regarding QtASK--it's still a work-in-progress along with how we'll integrate them into our review process so not a guarantee of getting listed, but it's good to see Infinity Search willing to answer them. +1

Okay, I have reached out to them so they can comment on this issue, I'm sure they'll be able to add support for DNSSEC,IPv6 and HSTS and the Mozilla Observatory. I know the QtASK doesn't mean being listed, just wanted to clarify that as an interesting point.

I think a criteria for search engines would be fine, but I doubt you'll get anything from it. There are so little options and I don't think DDG, as an example, is going to modify anything just because you tell them to (maybe I'm wrong, though).

By the way, do you think it's fine if I moved your chart with all the search engines from your website to the wiki? I think it'll be more helpful there.

nitrohorse commented 4 years ago

I think a criteria for search engines would be fine, but I doubt you'll get anything from it. There are so little options and I don't think DDG, as an example, is going to modify anything just because you tell them to (maybe I'm wrong, though).

It’s an ideas but yeah, you may be right about that. 🤔

By the way, do you think it's fine if I moved your chart with all the search engines from your website to the wiki? I think it'll be more helpful there.

Oh sure thing, thanks 🙂 https://searchengine.party/

InfinitySearch commented 4 years ago

Hello and thank you for considering our service. We have just updated our site to meet more of the requirements but we do not have DNSSEC and IPv6 yet. If anyone has any more questions for us we would be happy to answer them.

nitrohorse commented 4 years ago

We have just updated our site to meet more of the requirements...

Good to see!

InfinitySearch commented 4 years ago

Just as a heads up for the searchengine.party website, we longer support disabled JavaScript requests due to the increase in automated traffic coming to our site.

nitrohorse commented 4 years ago

Thanks, tracking this here.

InfinitySearch commented 4 years ago

Hello everyone. We are just checking to see what you all would want from us before we can be listed on the search engine page.

gary-host-laptop commented 4 years ago

Hello everyone. We are just checking to see what you all would want from us before we can be listed on the search engine page.

Maybe you should keep an eye on #1881

InfinitySearch commented 4 years ago

Thank you. Here is our current status with the criteria:

Criteria:

Passing:

Not Passing:

Bonus Criteria:

Not Passing:

More About Us:

ph00lt0 commented 4 years ago

@InfinitySearch now that your asking. I really do not like the fact that the image search on your website makes direct requests to bing.com. In case of duckduckgo this seems to go through their own servers instead.

InfinitySearch commented 4 years ago

@ph00lt0 DuckDuckGo also makes direct requests to Bing and they do not seem to store anything on their own servers. They may use another image API as a backup (like Pixabay) but their results also come directly from Bing. You can test this by looking at the image results on ours and DDG's and analyzing the difference. Here is an example: Us: https://infinitysearch.co/results/images?q=bing DDG: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bing&ia=images&iax=images

You can view more about their sources at https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources. They do have a web crawler for links but they do not seem to be used for images.

ph00lt0 commented 4 years ago

@InfinitySearch well something is fundamentally different since DuckDuckGo does not make direct requests to bing.com domain instead to external-content.duckduckgo.com. Not sure how that works exactly but your the requests on your website look like this:

Screenshot 2020-07-22 at 15 33 12
InfinitySearch commented 4 years ago

@ph00lt0 Oh yes that makes more sense. Thought you meant that they have their own image engine. We'll work on adding in that extra layer of protection as well.

InfinitySearch commented 4 years ago

@ph00lt0 This issue is fixed now! The way that we proxy the images is also open source at https://gitlab.com/infinitysearch/infinity-image-proxy.

maverick74 commented 3 years ago

@Mikaela / @nitrohorse Isn't this already suitable to add?

it seems to be a "one-of-a-kind" search engine (the only 2 search engines that are opensource - that i'm aware of - are Gigablast and Infinity search. All the others are either metasearch engines or closed source... And since Gigablast, unfortunately, has a very un-attractive GUI, i think this would be great to get listed)

Mikaela commented 3 years ago

Hi, I have left the PrivacyTools team back in April and thus cannot help you. I think Nitrohorse also left some time ago.

Ping @dngray @freddy-m , could you take a look at this? I don't seem to be able to ping editorional on mobile or outside of the organisation.

gary-host-laptop commented 3 years ago

@maverick74 Wow, I just searched for Gigablast and it's one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen, it looks straight out of the '90s. I would agree that InfinitySearch deserves to be listed, it's one of the best things out there, it works pretty awesome now, too.

maverick74 commented 3 years ago

@LongJohn-Silver i've already suggested a theme update (with no luck, however...).

It's a shame because it's not a bad search engine, it's just the GUI that makes it look REALLY outdated. If you, for example look at https://private.sh - which is a joint venture with GigaBlast (it actually uses gigablast as the search engine, just with an extra layer for privacy) - it actually looks a lot better. However, the project (private.sh) seems stalled and there are a lot of GigaBlast options that are not available (e.g.: you can't search for images).

If gigablast would only update it's theme for something more "standard" (landing page with just a search box, like google/duckduckgo/etc) it could really make a BIG change. But maybe that's just me..........

gary-host-laptop commented 3 years ago

I've been using Infinity for the last 2 days as my main search engine and I can say it works flawlessly except for the fact that doesn't support video and news searches.

maverick74 commented 3 years ago

I've also been using in the last few days it without any major flaws. It works well!

I think i can't agree more that it should be included in the list!

ph00lt0 commented 3 years ago

Unreachable through Tor atm, would not recommend

gary-host-laptop commented 3 years ago

Unreachable through Tor atm, would not recommend

Lol, I don't think it shouldn't be recommended only because of that, it doesn't even matter that much what search engine you use over Tor, even more if you keep in mind that this is an open source and libre software, which is pretty much nonexistent in this kind of market.

InfinitySearch commented 3 years ago

@dngray @freddy-m You all might be more interested in Infinity Decentralized. It is a completely open source search engine that has the built in support for combining results from other instances of it. The code is at https://gitlab.com/infinitysearch/infinity-decentralized and an example instance is up at https://infinitydecentralized.com.

For Infinity Search, you all might want to check it out again too because many improvements have been made to it since this issue was opened and most of our non-pro results come from our own indexes now.