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Replace broken ImagePlot download link in introduccion-a-imageplot-y-la-visualizacion-de-metadatos #3275

Open anisa-hawes opened 3 months ago

anisa-hawes commented 3 months ago
rivaquiroga commented 3 months ago

It seems that they moved to https://lab.culturalanalytics.info. They announced it here: https://web.archive.org/web/20231010083630/http://lab.softwarestudies.com/2016/11/please-use-our-new-wesbite.html

charlottejmc commented 3 months ago

Thank you for finding this link @rivaquiroga! Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work either on my side...

Edit: http://lab.culturalanalytics.info/ works (http instead of https)

I still need to find an alternative for downloading ImagePlot, since http://lab.softwarestudies.com/p/imageplot.html#download doesn't work either... The new website still links to the old ImagePlot links, which don't work anymore. The only potential alternative would be using the GitHub repo, but I don't see any releases, or other ways of getting ImagePlot. If we were able to find a way, this would mean editing the lesson to include new instructions for users.

This poses the question of whether the lesson actually currently works at all...

Hello @JoshuaGOB – I hope you don't mind me tagging you here as author of the lesson. Do you have any indication of whether ImagePlot is still functional, and how we might let readers download it? Thank you!

JoshuaGOB commented 3 months ago

Hi all, This has been on my to do list for longer than I'd like to admit. I'm very sorry for that.

I'm of two minds about this lesson. The macros from ImagePlot are over a decade old and I haven't heard of any interest in continuing the work. If the lesson isn't receiving any attention from readers, would it make sense to retire it?

The other option is to update the language in the lesson to point to the best location for the files.

I'm open to either. What do you think @jenniferisasi

anisa-hawes commented 3 months ago

Thank you for your note, @JoshuaGOB. May I ask where the four installation files you mention are available?

If @jenniferisasi feels that this lesson is still relevant and useful to the community, we can certainly investigate our options for hosting these. Are you in contact with the developers of/contributors to ImagePlot?

The key thing is that the lesson is still operable, and (of course!) to test that we need to be able to install the tool.

JoshuaGOB commented 3 months ago

Hi @anisa-hawes ImagePlot uses a group of macros that do the work behind ImageJ but don't require an actual install: ImagePlot.txt ImageShapes.txt imageMeasure.txt ImageSizeReport.txt

anisa-hawes commented 3 months ago

Thank you for explaining, @JoshuaGOB.

Let us know what you think when you have time, @jenniferisasi ☺️

jenniferisasi commented 3 months ago

Hi all, thanks for your patience as I get to this issue. I believe that if the solution @JoshuaGOB proposes works out, we should leave the lesson up for now. Shall we try hosting the files and then trying out the workflow to make sure they work? Thanks!

anisa-hawes commented 3 months ago

Thank you, @jenniferisasi. We'll experiment with hosting these four files, and work through the lesson to test it.

charlottejmc commented 2 months ago

Hi @JoshuaGOB and @jenniferisasi,

In the branch called Issue-3275, I've uploaded the four files to the /assets folder for introduccion-a-imageplot-y-la-visualizacion-de-metadatos.

However, looking at the lesson text, I think the section ## ImagePlot will need to be adapted quite extensively. We can change the first sentence to say: "Los archivos necesarios para ImagePlot se pueden descargar desde nuestro repositorio GitHub." (or something like that!). After that, I think we'll need to make some more detailed changes to reflect the new workflow.

If I understand correctly, we won't be asking readers to go through the ImageJ interface anymore, so I imagine sentences like "Al hacer clic derecho en la pantalla de Results aparece un menú [...]" will need to be updated throughout the lesson.

I believe these types of changes are outside the scope of what @anisa-hawes and I might be able to provide (especially in Spanish!) – @JoshuaGOB, would you be comfortable trying some edits, directly within the branch Issue-3275? We'll of course assist with typesetting and other publication services when you feel you have it working.

Do let me know your thoughts!

Thanks very much ✨

charlottejmc commented 1 week ago

Hello @JoshuaGOB and @jenniferisasi,

Just checking in with you about this issue – will you have capacity to take a shot at implementing some edits to adapt the lesson to the new ImagePlot files?

Thanks so much! @anisa-hawes and I are always on hand to assist with any queries you may have.