Blank Waterproof Pocket notebook

[BeckiC]

Eberhardt can print--nice off-brand paper, good cover material. Red cover with white image + rulers on back for easy reference. What cover art?

[jywarren]

I really liked how the decal image ran in white on a red cover, as in the email I sent:

I think the pdf I included on that email is good to go, if that looks good to you. We can ditch the "Public Lab" if you don't like it.

We could also do something similar to the shirt art I just posted in #2

[BeckiC]

Great--let's ditch the "Public Lab" and I think it will be good to go. Do we want to do rulers on the back or no? I don't have a strong preference either way.

[jywarren]

I like the rulers. Need artwork for that too, right? On Oct 8, 2014 12:45 PM, "BeckiC" notifications@github.com wrote:

Great--let's ditch the "Public Lab" and I think it will be good to go. Do we want to do rulers on the back or no? I don't have a strong preference either way.

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[BeckiC]

Yup!

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On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey Warren notifications@github.com wrote:

I like the rulers. Need artwork for that too, right? On Oct 8, 2014 12:45 PM, "BeckiC" notifications@github.com wrote:

Great--let's ditch the "Public Lab" and I think it will be good to go. Do we want to do rulers on the back or no? I don't have a strong preference either way.

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[mathewlippincott]

I ran a modified version of this chart on the second GMF as a photo scale, it can be used to rectify an image too. Great for taking field shots of samples and looks cool. What do you think?

I made a high-res photoshop version here that could be modified quickly, I could do it too. grassrootsmappingforum/issue-2/gmforum/summer2012/scalechart

[jywarren]

I like what Mathew posted. Might look like this:

Mathew, do you think Charles can print with the raster version of the scale chart? What was the final size he could do? Can he do rounded corners?

[mathewlippincott]

yup, he can do rounded corners. let me reach out to him on the final size-- he sourced that tiger paper since we last talked sizes.

[jywarren]

the ruler is CC-NC, so I looked for another more open one; this one is CC-zero:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Echelle_mm_cm_pour_photo.svg

[jywarren]

do we like the drawn seal (bootier version), the tshirt draft, or the kite-flying-thing from the first mockup I did?

[BeckiC]

I like the kite flying thing, like we used for the decal.

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do we like the drawn seal (bootier version), the tshirt draft, or the kite-flying-thing from the first mockup I did?

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[jywarren]

ok, pending paper size but I laid it out in the same as Field Notes books; 5.5x3.5 - it's in the /plots/design/ folder

[mathewlippincott]

We talked back and forth about it-- final size is 4.75x3.25. remember that "centered" has to account for the rounding of the binding, so more like a right-justified 3.125" cover, if you want to get particular.

[mathewlippincott]

we're going to do 32 pages.

[mathewlippincott]

nice call on the CC zero chart. weird to have someone else's url on our notebook

[mathewlippincott]

OK we can't use Tiger Paper... Have to order too much for the quantities we're doing.

We are going to try Yupo, that comes in the quantities we want. Charles recommends 57lb text and 100lb cover, told us we have to order our own samples. I'm not sure where we order a single page of exactly this paper. Their watercolor paper comes in 10 packs but I don't know if that will have the same ink response, which is what I really want to know.

https://www.shopyupo.com/product.php?productid=16201&cat=274&page=1

Https://www.shopyupo.com/product.php?productid=16198&cat=274&page=1

[mathewlippincott]

I contacted them for samples.

[mathewlippincott]

they didn't get back to us about samples so I bought a ream of 57lb text weight ($77). I'm holding off on the cover stock until we see we really want to write on this stuff.

[mathewlippincott]

OK-- the waterpoof Yupo works pretty well-- pencil, ballpoint, and sharpie (solvent-based) pens write fine. Gel pens, felt tips, and water-based pens don't dry quickly and will smudge up to 10 minutes after writing. Its not ideal, but its pretty damn good and recyclable. We're going to order the cover stock and go for production

Final details: 32 pages rounded corners ruler on back printing on inside cover with details on pens, recycling, materials the notebook is made of

So ToDos: 1)Order 100lb cover stock in 8.5x11 size https://www.shopyupo.com/product.php?productid=16198&cat=274&page=1

3) a warning for the inside front cover or back outer cover that says: pencil, ballpoint and permanent markers work great, we don't recommend water-based and gel pens. This notebook is made from 100% Polypropylene (5)[symbol] YUPO paper, manufactured in the USA. please recycle.

OPTIONAL: 4) A CERN open hardware license on the inside back cover? with a place to download the notebook print files? (I think this would be excellent)

5) include inches in the ruler on the back?

[jywarren]

+1 all sounds rad.

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mathew lippincott notifications@github.com wrote:

OK-- the waterpoof Yupo works pretty well-- pencil, ballpoint, and sharpie (solvent-based) pens write fine. Gel pens, felt tips, and water-based pens don't dry quickly and will smudge up to 10 minutes after writing. Its not ideal, but its pretty damn good and recyclable. We're going to order the cover stock and go for production

Final details: 32 pages rounded corners ruler on back printing on inside cover with details on pens, recycling, materials the notebook is made of

So ToDos: 1)Order 100lb cover stock in 8.5x11 size https://www.shopyupo.com/product.php?productid=16198&cat=274&page=1

3) a warning for the inside front cover or back outer cover that says: pencil, ballpoint and permanent markers work great, we don't recommend water-based and gel pens. This notebook is made from 100% Polypropylene (5)[symbol] YUPO paper, manufactured in the USA. please recycle.

OPTIONAL: 4) A CERN open hardware license on the inside back cover? with a place to download the notebook print files? (I think this would be excellent)

5) include inches in the ruler on the back?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/publiclab/design/issues/6#issuecomment-61531737.

[mathewlippincott]

looks like we just re-did field notes R&D, lol: http://fieldnotesbrand.com/colors/expedition/

[mathewlippincott]

updated, in same folder design/10-8-14-blank-notebook

still nothing on back inside cover.... should we add something? CERN license is rediculous, doesn't fit at all at any legible size.

[jywarren]

Very lovely! I like it a lot.

Maybe back inside cover: http://publiclab.org/wiki/kite-mapping-tips

Dunno. Or that could go in the front inside and the text from the front could go in the back? Anyways it looks super.

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updated, in same folder design/10-8-14-blank-notebook

still nothing on back inside cover.... should we add something? CERN license is rediculous, doesn't fit at all at any legible size.

[image: screen shot 2014-12-08 at 6 01 38 pm] https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1203280/5351061/5905d59e-7f04-11e4-86ce-8cc0e22f403e.png

[image: screen shot 2014-12-08 at 6 01 27 pm] https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1203280/5351062/5b67932c-7f04-11e4-810f-780bafc0ee23.png

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[mathewlippincott]

Take 2. I made the back a little flashier as a photo target, and moved the interior info as jeff suggested. thoughts?

[mathewlippincott]

garish or stylish? I know the color is a little off of our mock-up.

[BeckiC]

Not quite garish or stylish--functional.

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garish or stylish? I know the color is a little off of our mock-up.

[image: screen shot 2014-12-10 at 9 53 03 am] https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1203280/5381055/870df8e6-8052-11e4-8774-4d63c805d06d.png

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[mathewlippincott]

if we can't do a full-color print-- like all red over the white, what other color directions do we want to go in? running tests with charles now.

[BeckiC]

I like black and white but if we think that's too boring, I'm open to suggestions.

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if we can't do a full-color print-- like all red over the white, what other color directions do we want to go in? running tests with charles now.

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black and white +1 or black and red!

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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, BeckiC notifications@github.com wrote:

I like black and white but if we think that's too boring, I'm open to suggestions.

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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:15 AM, mathew lippincott < notifications@github.com> wrote:

if we can't do a full-color print-- like all red over the white, what other color directions do we want to go in? running tests with charles now.

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[mathewlippincott]

Charles doesn't think the color is going to be an issue.

[BeckiC]

Did he have an ETA on printing them?

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On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:11 PM, mathew lippincott <notifications@github.com

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Charles doesn't think the color is going to be an issue.

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