Various issues around similar tagnames, powertag listings vs. core tag listings, and possible redirects

[ebarry]

Please describe the problem (or idea)

What happened just before the problem occurred? Or what problem could this idea solve?

I was navigating around the hydrogen sulfide research area from https://publiclab.org/hydrogen-sulfide and clicked on the power tag, and through clicking the link i arrived at: https://publiclab.org/tag/question:hydrogen-sulfide

At first i was concerned that the lead wiki wasn't showing up, as it does on the regular tag page https://publiclab.org/questions/tag/hydrogen-sulfide.

Upon further consideration with @steviepubliclab , we realized that the issue is something else entirely: content-type power tags should not have their own tag pages.

Our suggestion is that it would be better to redirect tag pages for content-type power tags such as question:CONTENT to the regular tag page for that content: https://publiclab.org/tag/CONTENT.

What did you expect to see that you didn't?

At first i expected to see the tag page have a lead wiki page, but then i realized i was in a completely useless view of a power tag tag page.

Please show us where to look

https://publiclab.org/hydrogen-sulfide https://publiclab.org/questions/tag/hydrogen-sulfide https://publiclab.org/tag/question:hydrogen-sulfide <-- this is the URL that should redirect to the one above ^^

What's your PublicLab.org username?

This can help us diagnose the issue:

liz

[ebarry]

@publiclab/connectors , could you please help by providing a link to the relevant line in the code? Thanks!

[jywarren]

Hi, I'm adding the add-code-links label to this, but i also had some follow-up questions.

I can think of some uses for tag pages for power tags; one I just used was http://publiclab.org/tag/with:warren, to see all posts I've made. It could also be useful to see all microscope activities with http://publiclab.org/tag/activity:micro - so I am wondering if it's a more generalizable solution to:

1. have the tag card at the top of a page like this say, briefly, something like: "This is a [power tag](...). Also see content for [hydrogen sulfide]."

2. Or, we could have the page display wiki content from the simple "core" tagname, rather than the power-tag version, so:

http://publiclab.org/tag/activity:micro would show the tag card image and text preview from http://publiclab.org/wiki/micro instead of http://publiclab.org/wiki/activity:micro

Of these two options, do you like either more than redirecting all power tag tag pages to their "core" versions, so as to address the potential usefulness of /some/ power tag tag pages?

Thanks!

[ebarry]

HI @steviepubliclab and @publiclab-mimi , can you check this suggestion that Jeff made about how to direct powertag pages back to the main tag page?

[steviepubliclab]

Given our move to hide powertags, this might be less of an issue. People wouldn't be presented with powertags to click upfront right?

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[ebarry]

This will be less of an issue, but still something we should address so people don't "get lost" in our plumbing.

[ebarry]

So progress has been made here, but i believe the "wires are still crossed".

https://publiclab.org/tag/micro looks like this: 0 content

https://publiclab.org/tag/activity:micro looks like this: 0 content

https://publiclab.org/wiki/micro looks like this: a proper main page

https://publiclab.org/tag/microscope looks like this: 64 Research Notes, 25 Questions, 2 Wikis but no lead image:

https://publiclab.org/tag/microscopes has 29 Research Notes, 26 Questions, 4 Wikis

https://publiclab.org/wiki/microscope is a redirect that only mods and admins see:

[jywarren]

Hi all, just noting i think we still need to come to a decision on whether option 2) from the above comment is a good way forward? Given that we've identified possible uses for pages like these as also described in that comment above.

To the screenshots Liz has posted in the last comment, I can see there may be some possible ways to reduce confusion for users, but am not sure if either redirects or mirroring the main image and "card" text are the right solutions. Also, there are some additional observations about pages with similar URLs, but that don't have a powertag/tag relationship like activity:micro vs. micro -- rather, they are just very similar to each other, like micro, microscope and microscopes. So that seems like it may need a different brainstorm of solutions altogether.

One possible solution for the "no results" on pages like https://publiclab.org/tag/activity:microscopes is to have the code around the no results message try to detect if there's a colon in the tagname, and suggest the "simpler" core form. So if it shows no results but the tagname is activity:microscopes, it might have an extra message like: Try looking under just /tag/microscopes or something.

Finally there is one of the original observations that still exists although I'm not sure if it's a problem; these two very similar pages: https://publiclab.org/questions/tag/hydrogen-sulfide vs https://publiclab.org/tag/question:hydrogen-sulfide

So this now looks like it may need more discussion in detail as well as to be broken out into 2-3 or more sub-issues for these various scenarios and solutions. Thanks!