Some unlicensed games are not working

[ghost]

The following games are not working as expected:

Hard Drivin' (USA) (Proto) (Unl) - Error Loading Rom Hell Fighter (Asia) (PAL) (Unl) - Illegal Opcode Hidden Chinese Chess - An Qi (Asia) (NTSC) (Unl) - Error Loading Rom Metal Fighter (Asia) (Sachen) (Unl) Ms. Pac-Man (USA) (Unl) Othello (Australia) (Unl) - Error loading Rom Policeman (Spain) (Gluk Video) (Unl) - Mapper 36 Popo Team (Asia) (Unl) Pyramid II (Asia) (PAL) (Unl) - Black Screen Racermate Challenge II (USA) (All Versions) (Unl) - Mapper 168 Rockball (Asia) (Unl) - Black Screen Secret Scout in the Temple of Demise (USA) (Beta) (Unl) Sidewinder (Asia) (PAL) (Unl) Sidewinder (Australia) (Unl) - Error Reading Rom Silent Assault (Asia) (PAL) (Unl) - Illegal Opcode Silver Eagle (Asia) (PAL) (Unl) - Black Screen Street Heroes (Asia) (Unl) - Gray Screen Super Cartridge Ver 1 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Black Screen Super Cartridge Ver 2 - 10 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Black Screen Super Cartridge Ver 3 - 8 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Black Screen Super Cartridge Ver 4 - 6 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Illegal Opcode Super Cartridge Ver 5 - 7 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Illegal Opcode Super Cartridge Ver 6 - 6 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Black Screen Super Cartridge Ver 7 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Black Screen Super Cartridge Ver 8 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Black Screen Super Cartridge Ver 9 - 3 in 1 (Asia) (Unl) - Illegal Opcode Super Pang (Asia) (PAL) (Unl) Super Pang II (Asia) (Unl) Taiwan Mahjong - Tai Wan Ma Que 16 (Asia) (Unl) Twin Eagle (Asia) (PAL) (Unl) AV Super Real Pachinko (Japan) (Unl)

Block Out (USA) (Proto) Elite (Unknown) (NTSC Demo) Bugs Bunny Birthday Bash (USA) (Beta) [b] - Illegal Opcode Secret Scout in the Temple of Demise (USA) (Beta) (Unl)

[punesemu]

Hi PinkLouie, where can I find these roms?

[ghost]

All these roms are No-Intro roms. You can find them in the "Paradise". I don't know if I can post a link to piracy, if is it allowed.

[punesemu]

https://github.com/punesemu/puNES/commit/2bb3d26f7ae9ae36afe3d11f789cb32e60f0fa93

Hard Drivin' (USA) (Proto) (Unl).nes Missing header, impossible to fix Hell Fighter (Asia) (PAL) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Hidden Chinese Chess - An Qi (Asia) (NTSC) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed with the support for the truncated PRG ROM Metal Fighter (Asia) (Sachen) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Ms. Pac-Man (USA) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Othello (Australia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed with the support for the truncated PRG ROM Policeman (Spain) (Gluk Video) (Unl).nes - Added support for mapper 36 Popo Team (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Pyramid II (Asia) (PAL) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Racermate Challenge II (USA) (All Versions) (Unl).nes - Run well but, to play, it's necessary to emulate the controller specific for this game. I honestly don't know if it has ever been emulated. More info at http://www.nesmuseum.com/racermate.html Rockball (Sachen) [!].nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Secret Scout in the Temple of Demise (USA) (Beta) (Unl).nes - This beta don't support bus conflict, fixed in database Sidewinder (Asia) (PAL) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Sidewinder (Australia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Silent Assault (Asia) (PAL) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Silver Eagle (Asia) (PAL) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Street Heroes (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 1 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 1 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 2 - 10 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 3 - 8 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 4 - 6 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 5 - 7 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 6 - 6 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 7 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 8 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Cartridge Ver 9 - 3 in 1 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Pang (Asia) (PAL) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Super Pang II (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Taiwan Mahjong - Tai Wan Ma Que 16 (Asia) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Twin Eagle (Asia) (PAL) (Unl).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database AV Super Real Pachinko (Japan) (Unl).nes - Sorry but I don't find this rom

Block Out (USA) (Proto).nes - Missing header, impossible to fix Elite (Unknown) (NTSC Demo) - What is not working? Bugs Bunny Birthday Bash (USA) (Beta) [b].nes - I didn't find a single emulator that run it. Possible bad dumps?

[ghost]

I think Block Out (USA) (Proto) was fixed in NesHawk. Not released yet in a stable version. - https://github.com/TASVideos/BizHawk/blob/master/Assets/gamedb/gamedb_nes.txt Elite is bugged. It's a Pal rom. I attached AV Super Real Pachinko in the comment. Bugs Bunny is really a bad dump. Sorry for that.

Also, some licensed game are not working. They are:

Galaxian (Japan) Galaxian (Japan) (Rev A) Mississippi Satsujin Jiken (Japan) (Rev A) Money Game, The (Japan) - Black Screen Tatakae!! Rahmen Man - Sakuretsu Choujin 102 Gei (Japan) - Black Screen with sound of old TVs with no signal. Mighty Bomb Jack (Japan) (Rev A) - Black Screen Dragon Ball 3 - Gokuu Den (Japan) (Rev 1) Super Mario Bros. 25 Shuunen Version (Japan) (En) (Promo, Virtual Console) Mahjong (Japan) Miracle Piano Teaching System, The (France) Dragon Quest II - Akuryou no Kamigami (J-VC) Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu e... (J-VC) (PRG1) Gradius II (J) (VC) - Grey Screen Kage no Densetsu (J) (VC) Street Gangs (E) (VC) Banana (1986-09-08)(Victor Ongaku Sangyou)(JP) - Tosec Captain Skyhawk (1989)(Rare)(PlayChoice-10) - Tosec Mario's Open Golf (1991)(Nintendo)(PlayChoice-10) - Tosec

I will update this post if I find some more roms with problems.

One more unlicensed game not working:

Mei Shao Nv Meng Gong Chang (Princess Maker) (Sachen) (Unl) [U][!]

[punesemu]

https://github.com/punesemu/puNES/commit/92cdde195b85ec3c5e66e660fd81fbfed1895715

Block Out (USA) (Proto).nes - This version is a bad dump, the version running on neshawk (with PRG ROM sha1 2500B5492ECE1CAFB97881C5A384B0768313BF98) runs perfectly with puNES, tested and verified Elite is bugged. It's a Pal rom - Incorrect header, fixed in database AV Super Real Pachinko (Japan) (Unl).nes - Missing header, impossible to fix Galaxian (Japan).nes - Bad dump, the rom must be at least 16kb (http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/profile.php?id=1808) Galaxian (Japan) (Rev A).nes - Bad dump, the rom must be at least 16kb (http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/profile.php?id=1808) Mississippi Satsujin Jiken (Japan) (Rev A).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Money Game, The (Japan).nes - The version that I've runs well Tatakae!! Rahmen Man - Sakuretsu Choujin 102 Gei (Japan).nes - The version that I've runs well Mighty Bomb Jack (Japan) (Rev A).nes - Added to database Dragon Ball 3 - Gokuu Den (Japan) (Rev 1).nes - Missing header, impossible to fix Super Mario Bros. 25 Shuunen Version (Japan) (En) (Promo, Virtual Console).nes - Missing header, impossible to fix Mahjong (Japan) - The only versions that I've found are : Mahjong (Japan) (Rev A).nes and Mahjong (Japan) (Rev B).nes and both runs well Miracle Piano Teaching System, The (France).nes - Incorrect header, fixed in database Dragon Quest II - Akuryou no Kamigami (J-VC) - I can't find this rom Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu e... (J-VC) (PRG1) - I can't find this rom Gradius II (J) (VC) - Grey Screen - I can't find this rom Kage no Densetsu (J) (VC) - I can't find this rom Street Gangs (E) (VC) - I can't find this rom Banana (1986-09-08)(Victor Ongaku Sangyou)(JP).nes - Tosec - I think that is a bad dump, http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/profile.php?id=2690 as you can see, CHR ROM should have a size of 16Kb while this rom has 8kb Captain Skyhawk (1989)(Rare)(PlayChoice-10) - Tosec - Fixed in database Mario's Open Golf (1991)(Nintendo)(PlayChoice-10) - Tosec - Fixed in database

Mei Shao Nv Meng Gong Chang (Princess Maker) (Sachen) (Unl) [U][!].unif - Runs well here

[ghost]

Here are the files for you:

[punesemu]

Mahjong (Japan).zip - Missing header, impossible to fix Money.Game.The.Japan.zip - Runs well here Tatakae.Rahmen.Man.-.Sakuretsu.Choujin.102.Gei.Japan.zip - Runs well here Dragon Quest II - Akuryou no Kamigami (J-VC).zip - Bad dumps? Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu e... (J-VC) (PRG1).zip - Bad dumps? Gradius II (J) (VC).zip - Incorrect header, fixed in database (with the next commit) Kage no Densetsu (J) (VC).zip - Incorrect header, fixed in database (with the next commit) Street Gangs (E) (VC).zip - The roms runs well except for the first initial screen. Possible bad dump Mei Shao Nv Meng Gong Chang (Princess Maker) (Sachen) (Unl) [U][!].zip - Runs well here

[ghost]

Thanks for your time to fix these games.

[ghost]

I tried them in version, 0.100. You make one of the best nes emulators available. Just needs a new stable release. :p

[ghost]

Yes, but actually most unlicensed nes roms found in No-Intro contains bad headers. A lot of No-Intro roms are not verified, so if it's a bad dump, you can't know without checking datomatic

[ghost]

I am not supposed to clean anything, because when you do this you miss a lot of roms who can be problematic and not work, and each people clean in their personal way. And actually, some (b) works. And yeah, I already have reported errors to No-Intro, and changes were made. Some games missing in No-Intro are available in Goodset, and thanks to my reports they were added to No-Intro. Don't go saying what someone should or not do.

[jcdenton2k]

@anewuser

I fully understand your sentiment and I feel that I also understand where you are coming from. However, you should be wary in trying to 'moderate' places like this. The dev is able to handle things and it doesn't seem like they are being flooded with issues at the moment.

That said...

@PinkLouie

You should do some decent due-diligence in verifying that your rom dump will work on an official NES (top loader model) or Famicom. If you are unable or unwilling to do this then it may not be necessary to add specific exemptions for each and every unlicensed ROM you happen to find floating around online. There's already an 'Unlicensed Games Wiki' that catalogs a lot of these wierd and crazy games.

It is pretty rude and overtly hostile to be so dismissive when someone asks you to follow proper and respectful decorum for submitting issues with accurate information. Many of the ROMs you've claimed weren't working have turned out to be unworking bad dumps with bad data or missing data. You are indeed wasting the dev's time with such things because you are too lazy or ignorant to follow some decent amount of respect for the limited time that a dev has.

Feel free to continue reporting but also mention how you attempted to verify dumps on your end to make sure they consisted of actual decent data. No-Intro RomSets seem to be the gold standard when it comes to these types of things. GoodNES was mostly used for those of us in the romhacking community but it quickly spiraled out of control with adding every possible 'bad dump' and overdump and whatever variation out there.

[anewuser]

@punesemu Now that Galaxian is fixed, the latest No-Intro dumps for the ROMs mentioned on this other page also seem to be all working fine on puNES (both licensed and unlicensed).