slackware-15 too old already for wlroots/wayland

[01micko]

I've been developing labwc/sfwbar for a while now and the current 'stable' labwc/wlroots is way too buggy for a prime time puppy release, #3030 #3322 notably . The latest and greatest base is needed and in the case of slackware that is -current.

I'm typing on it now

• slacware64-current base
• labwc (recent commit - cetainly not latest, however latest is getting very good)
• sfwbar from about a month ago - it had improved in leaps since then too
• petbuilds for both of the above plus using more slackware base packages and using petbuilds for mpv/celluloid - which uses gtk4! Of course there is some theming issues, not too serious.

Everything pretty much works! Sound crashes on GUI restart - I know the cause. Most videos play, can view images (except mtpaint isn't working) , pMusic works (slackware native ffmpeg). It's actually pleasing that this is the first boot! Haven't saved session yet (usb install).

Hopefully I can offer PRs next wekend.

[dimkr]

Even before labwc support in woof-CE is in perfect shape, a slackware64-current configuration would be nice to have, so we can track future issues like new wlroots versions (same rationale as having weekly builds of sid64) 👍🏿

[01micko]

Even before labwc support in woof-CE is in perfect shape, a slackware64-current configuration would be nice to have, so we can track future issues like new wlroots versions (same rationale as having weekly builds of sid64) 👍🏿

..and just rebooted and restored this session :smiley_cat:

Absolutely. -current is where the action is and I should setup a wslacko repo to track breaking changes.

Time is my enemy however (like most of us :roll_eyes: )

[dimkr]

Time is my enemy however (like most of us 🙄 )

I can help with that. Maybe copying slackware64/15.0 to slackware64/current and adding it to the weekly rotation is a good first step.

[01micko]

I can help with that. Maybe copying slackware64/15.0 to slackware64/current and adding it to the weekly rotation is a good first step.

Maybe. Some stuff is quite broken though. For example,

• claws-mail petbuild completely fails
• lots of legacy stuff in the PKGS_SPECS_TABLE
• there is no dependency resolution in -current - maybe flatpack support would be a good idea? The thing I'm running now isn't that broken at all, quite usable - surprised me. However I did run into some dependency hell - such as gstreamer - down the line it depends on NetworkManager! I made package templates to remove bloat but the resulting iso is still huge - ~600MB! ffmpeg depends on samba, and samba actually works.

[01micko]

Progress:

• fixed claws-mail - well not really, just disabled the perl plugin and works
• made 'office' petbuild - goffice, gnumeric, abiword - works!
• had to enable stuff in mtpaint - works now
• need to update the icon sets, firefox exposes it's app_id as firefox-default - breaking the icon in wayland

[01micko]

Added

• evince (dep libhandy)

Still need to fine tune some of these petbuilds

[01micko]

The -current wayland build is now 548MB xz compressed with all of the above. Testing shortly.

[01micko]

Almost in a usable state! :sweat_smile:

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1019119/189509943-dcdadf37-3155-4549-baf8-b827a43bb29d.mp4

[01micko]

The above video and post was made on a 2012 mackbook. Everything pretty much works.

[dimkr]

Almost in a usable state! sweat_smile

recording.mp4

Super cool stuff!

[zigbert]

You are both incredible! Puppy has always been a conservative choice - not anymore.

Are you running the GTK3 version of pMusic or the one in woofCE?

[01micko]

I've been using the gtk3 version of pmusic in my devel environment. It mostly works fine. Great job! The above developments are pure woof so the gtk2 version is included, and works, but in a pure wayland environment it won't work as all X only applications don't. The curent focus is on wayland with Xwayland - an X server for wayland.

[dimkr]

Xwayland works very well in my bookworm64 development builds with dwl - even "big" applications like GIMP work fine.

[zigbert]

That's great to hear. I'll keep the development of pMusic outside woofCE until I have solved the major issues... First of all the drag'n'drop inside the playqueue.

[01micko]

@zigbert it seems only the old method works for gtk3 -Im not sure why.

• https://wikka.puppylinux.com/gtkdialogDocTips9.7

EDIT: old solution in practical use:

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1019119/190877561-607fe04f-d091-46c0-a479-7609adbba7e5.mp4

[zigbert]

@01micko Yepp, the old solution works... though, not as sophisticated as the GTK2 way.

We might end up with this one.

Thank you for your reminder