tacticalbacon89
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3 years ago Update (in reference to G2 reverb and knuckles controllers) after further testing and tinkering i have found through trial and error that calibrating using the HMD is more accurate, and waaaay easier and faster, this still doesnt fix the issue of inaccurate calibration as you get farther from the center where you calibrated, that is an algorithm issue IMO i thing adding scaling to the calibration would fix this. but i does make them more accurate and tighter to the hand position when you standing in the center where you calibrated , and should be the instructed way to do it from the start, you literally dont need the WMR controllers at all anymore from the start, granted you will have to do 2 calibrations, a fast one just to get controller in the right area for use, then a slow one for better accuracy, this would be my guide.
1. install openvr space cal then load up steamvr by simply turning on BOTH index controllers after pairing them to the dongles, you don't need your WMR controllers just turn them off before hand, also going to setting in steamvr enable show advance settings and turning off steamvr home helps alot, now your controllers will not be orientated correctly at all, and they will be in the ether under you and unusable because WMR is stupid but they will be tracking via base stations in the ether this is a moment when you can tell if your base station setup, or hardware is faulty vs the calibration. because this is the core tracking as steamvr sees it and where steam thinks your hands are in VR based on their algorithms.
2. So for the first calibration use your Monitor, and click on the currently running program space cal on your desktop, so it pops up on your screen, and select FAST calibration, and as for what to be calibrated, use your HMD and LEFT knuckles controller, now put the left controller on your hand, and tighten it, then grab headset where the headphones are with that same hand, make sure you are anchored to that spot don't let it wiggle around, (you might have to tilt headphone back, I removed mine anyways because you cant go past 80 percent volume level with the G2 so i use gaming headphones because HP is stupid ) now use right hand and click start calibration on your screen.
3. Now walk back to your VR no no square carpet, and start waving the headset and controller combo around like a mad man, but smoothly!! making sure to spin and move around a little.
4. Now once its done, stay in Steamvr and put the headset on, and the left controller will be in your relative orientation, and as for the right controller as long as it was turned on it will be where ever you left it, (you can find it in VR), now grab it put it on then turn off both index controllers wait a sec then turn them back on, your controllers will pop back into orientation, and you can now use them, and also you will now see your base stations orientated correctly in Steamvr as well, (this part can be finicky) if you don't see your base station where they should be just restart steamvr if that dont work start back at step one, Now if your not picky, and just wanna play some casual games fast, then you can stop here your done, and you will never have to do it like that again. you only need to use monitor for first time setup or if you clear your calibration.
5. Put WMR controller in a box and with a small amount of anger derived from HP, Microsoft, and Steam, for not giving you correctly orientated native steamvr support, and after the fact native index controller support because HP screwed us hard, throw them in the closet never to be used again!!!, just kidding i would put them in a drawer close by, because you might need them for WMR portal, because Microsoft is stupid!!!! and WMR sometimes causes your height to just randomly go out of wack, and make you like 7' tall, and for Minecraft am i right? um yea. thanks Microsoft.
For fine tuning, drift recalibrating, or general calibrations
1. This will be your normal calibration, or as i call it now, The Frustration Calibration, because of constant drift, and weird things that don't make sense. while in Steamvr with headset on, and controllers on both hands like your playing a game, reset your standing position in steam (bottom right, this is also finicky). then open Space Cal with the 3 dots (bottom), select VERY SLOW, or SLOW, then select same HMD and LEFT KNUCKLES controller, then place your left hand in the same spot as before, but backwards because your wearing the headset, or really anywhere you want that is touching the headset , and not blocking the HMD's cameras, the closer to the center of the HMD the better the result as long as you can anchor it where ever you put it, you don't have to tape it JUST DONT LET IT MOVE unless tape is your thing then eh..., then using right hand select start.
2. Walk around on all ??axis's?? within your VR no no square carpet, making sure to spin a few times and crouch a few times do a little smooth one hand dancing? what? its good exercise, DONT JUMP OR TRIP OVER THE DANG THE CORD, once its done your finished!!!!!!! alternatively you can take the headset off and hold it like before, but with both hands where the headphones are, and both controllers on your hands then just use WMR portal preview window to guide you, till you can click on start with the right controller in SteamVR, that's a harder way, but easer than you think, then swing like a mad man (or woman i don't judge),
Conclusion
NOW it should be very accurate as mine is minus the auto calibrated opposite controller jitters, but this lessens that too quite a bit, because the calibration is linked an object, that is persistent in the VR space through out the entire gaming session, and centered in the orientation of the VR space, just like a steam index does minus the active index to controller tracking as a additive to the base stations, Feedback Alert which i wish we could implement a crude version of that in space cal using a type of active calibration tracking that on top of the initial calibration done by the user would actively calibrate during gameplay, but to a much less extent to reduce potential lag, and would also compile the calibrations to fine tune it overtime, or catch it when it goes out of wack randomly, now that i would pay good money for, so long as the lag is under control plus scripting is fun and profitable right, also the object your calibrating to will always be in the play space available and easily accessible for faster calibrations, (literally its attached to you head), on top of that HMD positioning camera tracking is more reliable than IR tracking, meaning less shudders during calibration, and therefore better calibration, also you can get the controller closer to the center of the HMD than you can with the controller calibration, being as there is a huge gap between the IR light of the WMR controller, and the steam controller track bar when holding them both in one hand, plus its uncomfortable and aggravating to preform that task constantly in that manner, because now you gotta go find your old controller! then calibrate!! then because you turned it on you gotta exit steamvr!!! because it automatically became the dominant controller when it turned on blah blah in my opinion this is a better way by far to get this software to work close enough for general gamplay and still sometime you have to edit calibration and fine tune it because no matter what i do the controllers do weird things when moving around the play space they kinda move away from you or pull back into you almost like there origin positions are not right but i cant seem to manually get it where it should be. idk if this is a software algorithm issue or because i only have only 2 base stations i really wish this would get fixed it would make this software sooooo much better.
elchshooter
DepartmentVRC
TheCyberQuake
brian-armstrong
Arcansel
the major issue i am experiencing is not drift but rather inaccurate point of calibrated origin as the farther i get away from the spot at which i calibrated the index controller it will move away from my relative hand position in a given repeatable direction and its movement is opposite when walking the other direction i have played with edit calibration for 12 days now and no matter what i do it still persist i manage to get it very close one time and as long as i stayed at least 1 foot or so from my original calibrated position and always pointed the same general direction it was good enough for beat saber i think after read a few other post from the closed tab here i agree that i think this might be a scaling issue i think the calibration algorithm is not getting enough data to position the center to true center i think we need pitch, roll, yaw, x ,y, z , and scale eather that or there is an unseen or unnoticed error in the current algorithm that doesn't put center at true center. i will say if you fix this issue quickly and i can freely walk around my play space very well calibrated i will legitimately donate a 100$ to you just tell me where to send it. i want to play my G2 with index controllers and be able to play onward and Pavlov with a gunstock and all the other fun games i have other than just beat saber and vrchat all day