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PyChess - a chess client for Linux/Windows
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alternative logo #160

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pychess commented 9 years ago

Original issue 160 reported by mimoohowy 2007-03-25

I like the project and would like to contribute. Perhaps you like the alternative logo that I am attaching

regards, Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago
pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 1. posted by miklevin 2007-03-25

Karol, I like the Knight graphic at http://lobais.blogspot.com/ Would you be able to make an elephant logo for www.hittail.com ? We make our basic service free.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 2. posted by lobais 2007-03-26

Karol: I really like the logo! It has so much more energy than the old one :) Only problem about is, than it requires us to move faster in implementing crazy house ;)

I seems that it gets quite blurred when you scale it down, which will be necessary if we want the logo in stuff like the title bar. Even though om not an artist my self, I've read some blogs about this being necessary. http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon\_design/

But again: Very good work! I also wonder how this could influence the debate of a new name for PyChess :)

miklevin: Perhaps you should send Karol a personal mail about your project :)

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 3. posted by mimoohowy 2007-03-28

miklevin: just created the elephant (public domain): http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/2007/

You will find svg there, so you can play with the colours to fit your site

lobais: if you like the logo, I can tweak it (into comics), because I am not satisfied with it (even though it took me a few hours). I will also try to see about scaled-down version, though I am not strong at icons :( I just find pychess looking awesome and that motivates me

Karol (mimooh at inf sgsp edu pl)

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 4. posted by lobais 2007-03-29

What a nice elephant also! I think you are extremely good doing facial expression.

I'm also very happy that you like the way PyChess looks, and I think it can get even better with nice graphics like this logo. I thinking that this large version could be shown in the beginning, where we now have this smoke/stone background. Then the knight could be put in the down right corner, with same gradient of course.

Now I'm not sure if I should be the right one to tweak the colors, as you are probably the far most graphical of us :) But I think a little contrast color and perhaps a gradient on the body would look great! In all tango style.

But if you care tweaking it, and into icon size, that would be very interesting.

I look forward to PyChess supporting piece themes, stuff like this would be great :)

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 5. posted by mimoohowy 2007-03-29

Sounds like you really like my graphics. I will tweak the knight for sure (somehow not happy with this image). For the time being feel free to play with the colors/gradients. Since pychess doesn't launch on my computer (the cairo problem - it's my report) I can't see the smoke/stone background ;)

Luckily I can launch pychess at work, so I will check there. I use pychess svn, so if you play with the gradients via svn I will see it there and perhaps can commit updates if you please created an account for me (mimooh at inf.sgsp.edu.pl). Can it be kept in svg/png? I guess I looked for chess pieces svg files in pychess and found a file that looked like a bunch of bezier paths describing all pieces.

If you like the tango style, then we've got the same taste and will both tweak the knight. As to piece themes I would like to help, but don't feel strong when it comes to low resolutions. But I could see about them too.

regards, Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 6. posted by mimoohowy 2007-04-22

Here comes the new alt logo as I promised. I am pretty happy with the new one, although it needs tweaks to become an icon. Feel free to play with the color/shape.

regards, Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 7. posted by lobais 2007-05-05

I'm sorry for being so slow replying, but I've been thinking a lot about this. First of all I think the new logo is really great art! I really like the back of the knight! But then I'm not sure about the look of the face. Atm. we're called pychess, but I feel that the comic expression of the knight's face suggests a more imaginative name. Those were my thoughts. I then tried to combine the new and the old one - as the old one looks more serious - but the new one has so many more details so it didn't really work.

Then yesterday I saw the new logo of pidgin: http://pidgin.im/pidgin/home/ which is purple just like the knight. I think the pidgin guys have done a really good looking job, and the pigeon looks really good there.

So what I think we should do is:

I hope you are still interested in the issue. Your art is really great!

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 8. posted by mimoohowy 2007-05-06

Yes, pidgin looks great. I like both the face and the back of the knight and the old one, the serious one just sucks in my opinion. Feel free to play with it or with the colors. Here comes my icon proposal, but as I said I am not that strong when it comes to low resolution :(

I may try to further tweak the knight, the gradients/contrast, but don't promise any quick new submission.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 9. posted by mimoohowy 2007-05-07

This one sticks more to the grid and has some more tweaks

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 10. posted by lobais 2007-05-07

I don't know if the pidgin pidgeon looks "great" - it's not much tango - but I like the way it is integrated.

I think your icon approach is good! Maybe the dark orange should be darker in the small versions..

I've tried to add some more colors to the main knight. I couldn't find a way to add a contrast though. Perhaps, as the horse is somehow higher than wide, we could add another smaller piece in front of the knight, in a contrast color. Just like on the current pychess logo?

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 11. posted by mimoohowy 2007-05-07

Yes, if the knight should be the taller then peon is the option, with the comics face. I could also create a bishop instead of the peon (the clerical version) but bishop should be taller. We are talking about going to up to 200x200px logo with bishop and knight though.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 12. posted by lobais 2007-05-07

I tried to do some graphics using the purple logo, and I actually think it works very well!

I don't think it should be combined with a bishop of equal hight, as it would look strange, but a pawn or a king might work. This largest version would probably be for the desktop icon, while the headpart one would be for the menuitem and titleimage.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 13. posted by mimoohowy 2007-05-07

My wife and me agreed that blue doesn't go with the rest of the image. Here is our tweaked version. But you decide.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 14. posted by lobais 2007-05-07

Well, the color of the background will of course always have to be considered together with the webpage the image is put on. I thing however that we should try to not make the image too purple.

I came to think that you probably didn't have the Abaddon font used, so I thought I better attach it.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 15. posted by lobais 2007-05-07

Btw, it is a TrueType even though firefox calls it a binary.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 16. posted by mimoohowy 2007-05-07

Yes, I don't have the font, but it's getting late so forgive me for not playing with it. Here comes the peon - you name the colors.

btw, if philidor is the proposal for the game, not just the release - it sounds perfect to me.

How about a chess game one of these days? ;)

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 17. posted by lobais 2007-05-08

Uh nice one again!

I tried to play a little with the knight/pawn composition for the desktop icon. A process which mostly stood in undoing parts of your great work :)

The reason for this is mostly that I think the hand editions shouldn't be in the icon. I could however easily imagine them being on a news section of the webpage or other where one would like to have some variates.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 18. posted by lobais 2007-05-08

Uh nice one again!

I tried to play a little with the knight/pawn composition for the desktop icon. A process which mostly stood in undoing parts of your great work :)

The reason for this is mostly that I think the hand editions shouldn't be in the icon. I could however easily imagine them being on a news section of the webpage or other where one would like to have some variates.

For the name Philidor, it is merely meant as the version name. A guy called celobox (or something) posted a list of former fics grandmasters to the mailinglist. Philidor is number four, so I imagine to use it for 0.8.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 19. posted by lobais 2007-08-29

We need to integrate the icon into subversion. Rest of the art can be used when Phillidor is to be announced.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 20. posted by lobais 2007-09-02

Ok, I was a little unsure that people would be able to guess the "head icon" symbolized a chess client, so I created some new icons, based on the silhouette of the knight and pawn, with the colors from the glchess icon. The smaller ones gave some slight problems. As they will be used in the gnome-panel and in the titlebar - which are often very light - they can't really be white like the big one. For the 24x24 I made both black and white edition, but I wasn't sure which to take. Black is sure easier to see, but it doesn't look at much like the big one..

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 21. posted by mimoohowy 2007-09-02

Good work - I like the images.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 22. posted by lobais 2007-09-02

Thanks. I'll try to incorporate them into the game. Which one do you think works the best of the 24px images?

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 23. posted by lobais 2007-09-02

Hm I tried to implement the icons in the game. I must say that the only two I'm really satisfied with, are the desktop icon and the about image. The black 24x24 in the menu might also work, but it does look a little alien.. Any ideas? Oh, and the 16x16 black knight in the title bar looks even more alien, but any other picture looks incredible blurred there. The old icon was blurred too, but it had those contrast colors, so you were still able to distinguish stuff a bit.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 24. posted by mimoohowy 2007-09-02

As to 24 px, I like 24.png. As to small blurred images... I am not good at low resolutions. I am afraid I can't be of any help :( Geez, 16x16 canvas... horror!

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 25. posted by lobais 2007-09-03

Haha, I actually think it is an interesting task reducing those images :) I also read this very interesting article: http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/07/11/icon\_design/

I designed some new 24 and 16 pixel images. I think they are better than the old ones, even though they only have a single line border. They also make the look more general. All white icons.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 26. posted by mimoohowy 2007-09-03

The article is in fact interesting. It looks like you are getting better with low res, congrats!

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 27. posted by lobais 2007-12-21

The logo is now widely integrated in PyChess. Very nice it is.

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 28. posted by mimoohowy 2007-12-21

The logo is now widely integrated in PyChess. I saw it on pychess site and an mini icon on some screenshot. Thanks for choosing my art for you project.

Very nice it is. Seems to me Yoda fan you are :)

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 29. posted by lobais 2009-06-10

Hi Karlo, if you are still listening to this thread and do still have a little time to contribute to the project, I wondered if you had an idea for the PyChess fontwork?

I'm trying to design a tshirt for the project, but the Abaddon font is given me problem due to sharp s'es that are not easily printable. I also guess that it is not a good idea to use a commercial font as logo, when you can't even remember how you got it :P

I imagine a balance between too cartoony and too commercial. Perhaps with a slight ancient look, but without many sharp edges that are uneasy to print. I hope you have a bit of time left for this project :)

Cheers, Thomas

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 30. posted by lobais 2009-06-10

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 31. posted by jkrenska 2009-06-11

Hi Thomas,

to contribute to the project, I wondered if you had an idea for the PyChess fontwork? As to fontworks, I could prepare a single handmade cartoony inscription, such as here: http://www.sgsp.edu.pl/intranet/email/img/banner.png http://gpzoliborza.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/banner.png http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/STRAZ/ZAKLAD/zil\_logo.png http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/2008/jesien2008.png

No problem for such.

Regards, Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 32. posted by lobais 2009-06-11

Yes, these all look really great. Do you think it can have a little ancient look or in some way refere to chess? Perhaps by black and white squares..

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 33. posted by mimoohowy 2009-06-14

Thomas,

I suggest you propose some ancient look (I found some on google, but it's better you choose one) and I will do the inscrption in that style. I understand it should read

PyChess

Regards, Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 34. posted by lobais 2009-06-14

Is jkrenska and mimoohowy both your accounts?

Well, I like the old font of course, it is just too sharp in some of the letters. I also like the rybka logo: http://www.rybkachess.com/RYBKA-worlds-strongest-chess-engine-UCI-best-chess-UCI-software-greatest-chess-engine-software-UCI-top-chess-software-engine-UCI/logo.gif It is has a good balance of cartoon and seriousness I think :P

I don't want to restrict you though. If you've found something good on the web, then maybe that can be inspirational as well.

PyChess it should read :)

Best Regards, Thomas

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 35. posted by mimoohowy 2009-07-04

Hi again,

Yes, I am both jkrenska and mimoohowy. Here comes the work. The gray inscription is for you to play and modify - you just change the curves > duplicate > union the paths

outset the new path and change the colour.

Regards, Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 36. posted by lobais 2009-08-21

Hi Karol, I hope you had a nice summer holiday. I quite like the energy and the tweeking of the logo. I think however, we need the logo to be a bit more "oldschool" looking, not so much in the style, the red border is very nice, but more in the font. Did you make this one all by hand, or is it based on some font you have?

/Thomas

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 37. posted by mimoohowy 2009-08-21

Thomas,

The font is done by hand. It's been done pretty fast, so if you give me images or the hints for what you refer to as "oldschool" I can do similar probably. Mine looks cartoony, becasue this is the style I like. Holiday was fine, hope yours too.

Regards, Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 38. posted by lobais 2009-08-21

I know my specifications are a bit flussy, but I'm also quite open (I think) :) I think this logo is very styly: http://www.thanetchess.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/thanetchess\_logo.gif But perhaps you can also get inspiration from these fonts: http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=402&nb\_ppp=50 witch give a feel of, perhaps "classic" is the best word.

I hope that was any help :) Cheers, Thomas

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 39. posted by mimoohowy 2009-09-02

Thomas,

I looked at the links given and this is definately not my style + there are so many variations that I suggest I am not the one to make the logo. I am more into cartoons. You could try yourself by hand or by installing the preferred font.

Karol

pychess commented 9 years ago

Original comment 40. posted by lobais 2009-09-16

Hi Karol, I've tried working with a lot of fonts and I've come down to something promising, I think. I feel however that the way the logo interacts with the text (see the attachment) provides to little dynamics, and is thus irrelevant. If you look at the Thannet chess logo, the wave under the icon somehow makes the two poles merge better.

If you have time, I hope you will try to experiment how the knight and pawn drawings can best supply the rest of the logo.

Thanks, /Thomas