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Create a favicon! #16

Closed kayzhu closed 11 years ago

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Welcome Ideas for favicon!

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Here is one generated by simply downscaling the logo:

favicon

The words are definitely not distinguishable, and I am not sure if I like how it looks -- but it is still better than no favicon!

wolever commented 11 years ago

Maybe black circle, red border, white maple leaf? Could we bug Jess to whip that up for us?

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Following this post: http://daringfireball.net/2013/01/retina_favicons I created a .ico file containing both the 32x32 and 16x16 favicon, and it looks reasonably better!

32x32: favicon

16x16: favicon16

Still, it'd be great if Jess can design a proper favicon instead of the downscaling one -- it'd take me way too long to design something like this :D

wolever commented 11 years ago

Mmm… Better, but still not great, IMO. The antialiasing is pretty terrible :\ I'd rather have just a black square with red border — that would look pretty cool, and be easy to draw.

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Hmm, this is what it looks like without the words (but still has the maple leaf):

32x32 pyconlogo-nowords

16x16 pyconlogo-nowords16

wolever commented 11 years ago

Mmm ya — the maple leaf would need to be made bigger in the 32x32, and either bigger or removed in the 16x16… Or maybe put in the centre? And the red border would need to be made bigger in both…

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Let me try that :) For 32x32, do you mean putting the maple leaf in the centre or the same location but bigger?

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Hmm, here is what I come up with:

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Here is the refined version with maple leaf in the middle:

32x32: pyconlogo-rc0-32

16x16 pyconlogo-rc0-16

The maple leaf in 32x32 looks decent, but the 16x16 isn't so. So I'd agree that using the one with maple leaf for 32x32, and the one with just a black circle for 16x16 is a good solution in this case.

eloraburns commented 11 years ago

I like even the small one with maple leaf. Maybe making the leaf stem thicker in that one, so it's visible?

Funny, this design is close to what I was thinking when I first saw this ticket. :)

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Pixel fitted favicons:

32x32: 0e411d82-abe5-11e2-9187-0fcac6e0bb1e

16x16: 4f9d6cb8-abe5-11e2-97c6-4d4d8bce8cc5

and pixelfitted2

After manually pixel fit these icons for a while, I am starting to get convinced that representing the maple leaf with a 8x9 grid is not really an easy task. Aside from fixing the circle, whatever choices I made, the look of the maple leaf just didn't look right.

I am also convinced that pixel-fitting, while useful for "straight" graphs, has greatly diminished benefits for circles and geometries with lots of sharp angles such as the maple leaf.

On the plus side of things, it seems all mobile devices, and most modern browsers will use the 32x32 version instead of the 16x16 one :)

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Here is a pretty nice 16x16 maple leaf for comparison:

Maple_Leaf svg

(in our version, the maple leaf occupies ~25% pixels in a 8x8 grid and hence a lot harder to not lose information on the edges.)

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Finally, I found http://pixenapp.com/ -- a pixel art editor, pretty good at doing pixel-fitting :)

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Somewhat better by decreasing the circle width then pixel-fitted:

16x16: pyconlogo-biggerleaf-16_pixelfitted

32x32: pyconlogo-biggerleaf-32_pixelfitted

MichaelDiBernardo commented 11 years ago

I love Pixen!!

wolever commented 11 years ago

Hey! Those are looking good! Awesome!

eloraburns commented 11 years ago

:+1: ship it :)

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Finally figured out what's wrong -- and now I take back my recommendation for Pixen..

It turned out that when I do "save as.." in Pixen, the alpha channel of the original image will not be saved as it is! It took me so much staring/md5/Kaleidoscope to figure out why the icons are looking weirder and weirder as I work on them..

I will update a bit later with a better pixel-fitted favicon.

kayzhu commented 11 years ago

Final favicons:

32final 16final