QGIS for Peace: Palestinian flag is missing if Ukraine flag is shown.

[arminiusresistance]

Feature description

Hi,

It is been since several versions that we see the Flag of Ukraine to be in QGIS. As an open source tool which combines the opinion of all of the developers, I believe it is fair to put the flag of Palestine as well if QGIS community would like to include politics in this open source tool. Otherwise, it is perceived as a double standard. I hope this post is seen with open mind and let the community to be fair on include all wars in its first page or make the tool free of this topic.

Looking forward to the reaction

Best!

[agiudiceandrea]

Hi @arminiusresistance, please read https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-psc/2023-November/010159.html. @mbernasocchi, should this request be brought to the attention of the PSC?

[blacktesta]

My father is Russian and my mother is Ukrainian. IMHO only peace sign must be in open source worldwide application to describe that people all over the world want peace.

[yekruz]

@arminiusresistance @agiudiceandrea @mbernasocchi @blacktesta

I think this shall definitely be brought to the attention of the PSC. According to the IJC, a genocide is happening right now in Palestine and every human being has the duty to stand up and show that we are against of it to protect esp. the lives of children and women.

I would strongly ask the QGIS team to take this into consideration to carry out necessary actions to show that all human lives are important to the GIS community. We shall show that we have no double standard to stand with. This way GIS community can see this as a positive sign from QGIS developing team and its community and continue to contribute to that. Otherwise, it will be seen as a tool controlled by politics and not by the humanitarian values.

Hopefully, as an European member of the GIS community, I could see the Palestinian flag is raised when I open my QGIS as soon as possible next to the Ukrainian flag.

[kannes]

As you can see in the qgis-psc message linked above, this was already discussed by the PSC.

Let me add a quote so it is not missed again:

At the PSC we lengthy discussed [...] and came to the decision not to do that. To be clear, this has nothing to do with this specific conflict. After putting out the Ucraine message we realised that by focusing on that conflict we were neglecting many other conflicts that unfortunately are burdening our world and that if QGIS was to put a flag on its news feed for each conflict, well, I'll let you imagine our news feed.

As Raymond nicely wrote, we've very little (and precious) time we give to the QGIS project and we want this to be as much value for QGIS.org as possible so we'd rather put our focus on helping our community making (quoting the newsfeed again ) "tools like QGIS to the benefit of all citizens on earth, to support a sustainable environment, an orderly society and, in particular, to establish and preserve sovereign dignity, security and freedom from oppression".

[yekruz]

@kannes I understand, but how come the result of this lengthy discussion is that we see Ukrainian flag in our news feed and not the Palestinian flag? According to the UN, Palestinian territories are under occupation since 1948.

How about we would remove the Ukranian flag and others could also imagine that flag in their new feed? Wouldn't this be leading to closing this feature request as suggested initially by @arminiusresistance

As you can see in the qgis-psc message linked above, this was already discussed by the PSC.

Let me add a quote so it is not missed again:

At the PSC we lengthy discussed [...] and came to the decision not to do that. To be clear, this has nothing to do with this specific conflict. After putting out the Ucraine message we realised that by focusing on that conflict we were neglecting many other conflicts that unfortunately are burdening our world and that if QGIS was to put a flag on its news feed for each conflict, well, I'll let you imagine our news feed. As Raymond nicely wrote, we've very little (and precious) time we give to the QGIS project and we want this to be as much value for QGIS.org as possible so we'd rather put our focus on helping our community making (quoting the newsfeed again ) "tools like QGIS to the benefit of all citizens on earth, to support a sustainable environment, an orderly society and, in particular, to establish and preserve sovereign dignity, security and freedom from oppression".

[haubourg]

Hi all, we made this entry expire tomorrow. The plan was to let it burry in the newsfeed but we currently have very little published news and it popped up again.