Closed nagb closed 4 years ago
Please use XMS-CASPT2. MS-CASPT2 is an ill defined theory and that’s reflected in the instability of the Z vector equation. For theoretical backgrounds, read Granovsky 2011 JCP and perhaps some of mine.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:33 AM nagb notifications@github.com wrote:
I don't know if this has come up to any users before but I couldn't find anything while searching through the archive in here.
I am running an MS-CASPT2 optimisation and while the program is going through the gradient stage it gets stuck trying to solve the Z vector equations:
=== CASSCF Z-vector iteration ===
0 0.0037950075 151.7911993374 1.64
- linear dependency detected: 1 / 2 min eigenvalue: 9.6233e-09 max eigenvalue: 9.6233e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
1 0.0038000891 151.7911995828 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 2 / 3 min eigenvalue: -3.9371e-16 max eigenvalue: 7.1625e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
2 0.0038091857 151.7911997637 1.67
- linear dependency detected: 3 / 4 min eigenvalue: -2.6138e-16 max eigenvalue: 2.6369e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
3 0.0038157240 151.7911997210 1.78
- linear dependency detected: 4 / 5 min eigenvalue: -9.5739e-17 max eigenvalue: 5.2881e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
4 0.0038124812 151.7911997586 1.62
- linear dependency detected: 5 / 6 min eigenvalue: -5.8490e-16 max eigenvalue: 6.2254e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
5 0.0038104955 151.7911997658 1.52
- linear dependency detected: 6 / 7 min eigenvalue: -2.6349e-16 max eigenvalue: 6.5097e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
6 0.0038095331 151.7911997648 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 7 / 8 min eigenvalue: -3.1906e-16 max eigenvalue: 6.6177e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
7 0.0038090163 151.7911997630 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 8 / 9 min eigenvalue: -8.8894e-16 max eigenvalue: 6.6659e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
8 0.0038087188 151.7911997616 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 9 / 10 min eigenvalue: -2.4152e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.6901e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
9 0.0038085355 151.7911997606 1.54
- linear dependency detected: 10 / 11 min eigenvalue: -6.2078e-16 max eigenvalue: 6.7035e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
10 0.0038084156 151.7911997598 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 11 / 12 min eigenvalue: -1.0187e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7114e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
11 0.0038083332 151.7911997593 1.76
- linear dependency detected: 12 / 13 min eigenvalue: -1.1373e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7164e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
12 0.0038082743 151.7911997589 1.77
- linear dependency detected: 13 / 14 min eigenvalue: -5.9847e-16 max eigenvalue: 6.7196e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
13 0.0038082308 151.7911997586 1.56
- linear dependency detected: 14 / 15 min eigenvalue: -1.1299e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7218e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
14 0.0038081978 151.7911997584 1.53
- linear dependency detected: 15 / 16 min eigenvalue: -2.1309e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7233e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
15 0.0038081722 151.7911997582 1.60
- linear dependency detected: 16 / 17 min eigenvalue: -2.7386e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7244e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
16 0.0038081520 151.7911997581 1.88
- linear dependency detected: 17 / 18 min eigenvalue: -1.6310e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7252e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
17 0.0038081357 151.7911997579 1.59
- linear dependency detected: 18 / 19 min eigenvalue: -2.0190e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7258e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
18 0.0038081225 151.7911997578 1.73
- linear dependency detected: 19 / 20 min eigenvalue: -2.1896e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7263e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
19 0.0038081116 151.7911997578 1.58
- linear dependency detected: 20 / 21 min eigenvalue: -4.5704e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7267e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
20 0.0038081026 151.7911997577 1.44
- linear dependency detected: 21 / 22 min eigenvalue: -4.2884e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7269e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
21 0.0038080949 151.7911997576 1.54
- linear dependency detected: 22 / 23 min eigenvalue: -1.3493e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7272e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
22 0.0038080884 151.7911997576 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 23 / 24 min eigenvalue: -1.4167e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7273e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
23 0.0038080829 151.7911997576 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 24 / 25 min eigenvalue: -1.2044e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7275e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
24 0.0038080781 151.7911997575 1.44
- linear dependency detected: 25 / 26 min eigenvalue: -1.4839e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7276e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
25 0.0038080740 151.7911997575 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 26 / 27 min eigenvalue: -6.0602e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7277e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
26 0.0038080703 151.7911997575 1.52
- linear dependency detected: 27 / 28 min eigenvalue: -1.2136e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7278e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
27 0.0038080672 151.7911997574 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 28 / 29 min eigenvalue: -3.5270e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7278e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
28 0.0038080644 151.7911997574 1.53
- linear dependency detected: 29 / 30 min eigenvalue: -1.6051e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7279e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
29 0.0038080619 151.7911997574 1.43
- linear dependency detected: 30 / 31 min eigenvalue: -3.2801e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7280e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
30 0.0038080597 151.7911997574 1.51
- linear dependency detected: 31 / 32 min eigenvalue: -1.3774e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7280e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
31 0.0038080577 151.7911997574 1.42
- linear dependency detected: 32 / 33 min eigenvalue: -3.3450e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7280e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
32 0.0038080559 151.7911997574 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 33 / 34 min eigenvalue: -3.8668e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7281e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
33 0.0038080544 151.7911997573 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 34 / 35 min eigenvalue: -7.9658e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7281e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
34 0.0038080529 151.7911997573 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 35 / 36 min eigenvalue: -6.5164e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7281e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
35 0.0038080516 151.7911997573 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 36 / 37 min eigenvalue: -5.4920e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7281e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
36 0.0038080504 151.7911997573 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 37 / 38 min eigenvalue: -7.4559e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
37 0.0038080494 151.7911997573 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 38 / 39 min eigenvalue: -8.6966e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
38 0.0038080484 151.7911997573 1.43
- linear dependency detected: 39 / 40 min eigenvalue: -6.3043e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
39 0.0038080475 151.7911997573 1.42
- linear dependency detected: 40 / 41 min eigenvalue: -1.0500e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
40 0.0038080467 151.7911997573 1.44
- linear dependency detected: 41 / 42 min eigenvalue: -5.6837e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
41 0.0038080459 151.7911997573 1.47
- linear dependency detected: 42 / 43 min eigenvalue: -6.0721e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
42 0.0038080452 151.7911997573 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 43 / 44 min eigenvalue: -1.0127e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
43 0.0038080446 151.7911997573 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 44 / 45 min eigenvalue: -1.0155e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
44 0.0038080440 151.7911997573 1.64
- linear dependency detected: 45 / 46 min eigenvalue: -8.2939e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
45 0.0038080434 151.7911997573 1.55
- linear dependency detected: 46 / 47 min eigenvalue: -6.5684e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7282e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
46 0.0038080429 151.7911997573 1.54
- linear dependency detected: 47 / 48 min eigenvalue: -8.6369e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
47 0.0038080424 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 48 / 49 min eigenvalue: -9.7886e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
48 0.0038080420 151.7911997572 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 49 / 50 min eigenvalue: -1.2269e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
49 0.0038080416 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 50 / 51 min eigenvalue: -9.3614e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
50 0.0038080412 151.7911997572 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 51 / 52 min eigenvalue: -1.3487e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
51 0.0038080408 151.7911997572 1.54
- linear dependency detected: 52 / 53 min eigenvalue: -1.1798e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
52 0.0038080405 151.7911997572 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 53 / 54 min eigenvalue: -1.0188e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
53 0.0038080402 151.7911997572 1.51
- linear dependency detected: 54 / 55 min eigenvalue: -9.5212e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
54 0.0038080399 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 55 / 56 min eigenvalue: -8.1243e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
55 0.0038080396 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 56 / 57 min eigenvalue: -1.2907e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
56 0.0038080393 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 57 / 58 min eigenvalue: -9.0228e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
57 0.0038080391 151.7911997572 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 58 / 59 min eigenvalue: -1.0106e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
58 0.0038080388 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 59 / 60 min eigenvalue: -1.1162e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
59 0.0038080386 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 60 / 61 min eigenvalue: -1.1221e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
60 0.0038080384 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 61 / 62 min eigenvalue: -1.0833e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
61 0.0038080382 151.7911997572 1.47
- linear dependency detected: 62 / 63 min eigenvalue: -9.5992e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
62 0.0038080380 151.7911997572 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 63 / 64 min eigenvalue: -1.8595e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
63 0.0038080378 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 64 / 65 min eigenvalue: -1.2941e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
64 0.0038080377 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 65 / 66 min eigenvalue: -1.5033e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
65 0.0038080375 151.7911997572 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 66 / 67 min eigenvalue: -1.5957e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
66 0.0038080374 151.7911997572 1.51
- linear dependency detected: 67 / 68 min eigenvalue: -1.2695e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
67 0.0038080372 151.7911997572 1.47
- linear dependency detected: 68 / 69 min eigenvalue: -1.6423e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
68 0.0038080371 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 69 / 70 min eigenvalue: -1.2264e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
69 0.0038080369 151.7911997572 1.47
- linear dependency detected: 70 / 71 min eigenvalue: -1.7973e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
70 0.0038080368 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 71 / 72 min eigenvalue: -1.7339e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
71 0.0038080367 151.7911997572 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 72 / 73 min eigenvalue: -1.3457e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
72 0.0038080366 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 73 / 74 min eigenvalue: -1.4050e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
73 0.0038080365 151.7911997572 1.51
- linear dependency detected: 74 / 75 min eigenvalue: -1.7381e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
74 0.0038080364 151.7911997572 1.47
- linear dependency detected: 75 / 76 min eigenvalue: -1.5687e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
75 0.0038080363 151.7911997572 1.47
- linear dependency detected: 76 / 77 min eigenvalue: -1.3622e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
76 0.0038080362 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 77 / 78 min eigenvalue: -9.9842e-15 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
77 0.0038080361 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 78 / 79 min eigenvalue: -1.3477e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
78 0.0038080360 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 79 / 80 min eigenvalue: -1.2744e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
79 0.0038080359 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 80 / 81 min eigenvalue: -1.7111e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
80 0.0038080358 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 81 / 82 min eigenvalue: -1.6368e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
81 0.0038080358 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 82 / 83 min eigenvalue: -2.0525e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
82 0.0038080357 151.7911997572 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 83 / 84 min eigenvalue: -1.6045e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
83 0.0038080356 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 84 / 85 min eigenvalue: -1.7029e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
84 0.0038080356 151.7911997572 1.52
- linear dependency detected: 85 / 86 min eigenvalue: -1.2104e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
85 0.0038080355 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 86 / 87 min eigenvalue: -2.0542e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
86 0.0038080354 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 87 / 88 min eigenvalue: -2.0156e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
87 0.0038080354 151.7911997572 1.47
- linear dependency detected: 88 / 89 min eigenvalue: -1.5512e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
88 0.0038080353 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 89 / 90 min eigenvalue: -1.5183e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
89 0.0038080352 151.7911997572 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 90 / 91 min eigenvalue: -2.2305e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
90 0.0038080352 151.7911997572 1.50
- linear dependency detected: 91 / 92 min eigenvalue: -1.8628e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
91 0.0038080351 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 92 / 93 min eigenvalue: -1.7681e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
92 0.0038080351 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 93 / 94 min eigenvalue: -2.5890e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
93 0.0038080350 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 94 / 95 min eigenvalue: -1.5689e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
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94 0.0038080350 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 95 / 96 min eigenvalue: -2.3585e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
95 0.0038080350 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 96 / 97 min eigenvalue: -1.6829e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
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96 0.0038080349 151.7911997572 1.45
- linear dependency detected: 97 / 98 min eigenvalue: -1.7934e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
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97 0.0038080349 151.7911997572 1.48
- linear dependency detected: 98 / 99 min eigenvalue: -1.9011e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
98 0.0038080348 151.7911997572 1.46
- linear dependency detected: 99 / 100 min eigenvalue: -2.1200e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
99 0.0038080348 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 100 / 101 min eigenvalue: -2.3650e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
100 0.0038080347 151.7911997572 1.49
- linear dependency detected: 101 / 102 min eigenvalue: -1.7909e-14 max eigenvalue: 6.7283e-09
- Using canonical orthogonalization due to linear dependency
Then the program moves on to the next geometry and a bad gradient keeps getting calculated for the following steps.
I've found that this pattern is dependent on the "thresh_overlap" parameter. Sometimes these errors go away with a loose value such as 1e-4 but then they resurge at a later geometry.
Does anyone know what may be going on here?
Regards, Nuno
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Thanks for commenting.
I will try the XMS variant but I was under the impression that XMS-CASPT2 is not so good for excited state energies (Lindh et al https://dx.doi.org/10.1021/acs.jctc.9b01129) hence my hesitation.
Full disclosure I am also using a non-standard imaginary shift of 0.5 au since from a OpenMOLCAS single point run I see some intruder states. In BAGEL I don't know how to spot them.
The usefulness of XMS-CASPT2 has been established so I don't intend to argue here (for that matter, I don't agree with Roland, except when you are studying very high lying state (like 30th excited state)). In any event, the deficiency of MS-CASPT2 Z vector cannot be fixed because the problem lies in the MS-CASPT2 parameterization.
On a separate note, likely, there are multiple sources of intruders. MOLCAS has more sources of intruders than BAGEL does; so it may be that an imaginary shift of 0.5 is not necessary. But you never know. Just calculate something with different shifts and see how it behaves. The same amount of information as Molcas is printed out in BAGEL.
Since I am not in academia any longer, I have no time to help you with specific input files, but hope this helps. I will close the issue.
PS: When XMS-CAPST2 vs MS-CASPT2 accuracy is the issue, it means that CASPT2 ansaz itself is not sufficient, so you'd better do something other than CASPT2.
PPS: I think the cause of slow adaptation of XMS-CASPT2 is because it was proposed by Granovsky in Russia who didn't travel to the western world (he passed away last year), and because Molcas is not setup to implement XMS-CASPT2 correctly (they use a state-specific Fock operator instead of state averaged one.
Thank you very much for those insightful comments! I will take these into consideration when I run more trials.
Just as a follow-up, I can confirm that the Z-vector equations with XMS-CASPT2 are numerically stable for my system and the optimisation goes smoothly.
Cool, thanks for letting me know.
I don't know if this has come up to any users before but I couldn't find anything while searching through the archive in here.
I am running an MS-CASPT2 optimisation and while the program is going through the gradient stage it gets stuck trying to solve the Z vector equations:
=== CASSCF Z-vector iteration ===
Then the program moves on to the next geometry and a bad gradient keeps getting calculated for the following steps.
I've found that this pattern is dependent on the "thresh_overlap" parameter. Sometimes these errors go away with a loose value such as 1e-4 but then they resurge at a later geometry.
Does anyone know what may be going on here?
Regards, Nuno