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qTranslate-XT (eXTended) - reviving qTranslate-X multilingual plugin for WordPress. A new community-driven plugin soon. Built-in modules for WooCommerce, ACF, slugs and others.
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The author of this plugin is not available. #476

Closed herrvigg closed 6 years ago

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Issue by VaLeXaR Monday Jan 16, 2017 at 09:03 GMT Originally opened as https://github.com/qTranslate-Team/qtranslate-x/issues/476

He is not answering on private message or email. Can anybody create fork and will include all fixes for future users? It is bad when only one developer has access to the development of this plugin.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by The3IC Wednesday Jan 18, 2017 at 17:59 GMT

Also the support pages are down so seems this is the end of the line?

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by TheDubliner Wednesday Jan 18, 2017 at 21:07 GMT

Are you volunteering VaLeXaR? :wink:

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Thursday Jan 19, 2017 at 08:09 GMT

@TheDubliner I'm ready. But needs somebody else. Need a team that did not happen, as with this project. Are You ready?

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by TheDubliner Thursday Jan 19, 2017 at 19:02 GMT

@VaLeXaR I guess the answer for the radio silence here can be found in this thread.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Thursday Jan 19, 2017 at 19:34 GMT

@TheDubliner at last the author of this plugin appeared.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by raykai Friday Jan 20, 2017 at 04:16 GMT

i got a post from the Plugin Author John Clause today saying: "I am sorry for your trouble. We currently do not have resources to answer support questions for free" "We need to figure out a way to monetize the support and further development."

you can see the full post in the attachment or at this link: https://wordpress.org/support/topic/bug-with-wp-4-7-sub-page-in-breadcrumb-bug/#post-8676360

its dead

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by adeacetis Saturday Jan 21, 2017 at 12:56 GMT

John isn't taking care of the plugin since July '16. When I asked in the forum what happened to him, I received a vague answer from forum-s administrator. Since then, I was busy with other stuff and, I have to admit, disappointed with how things were going on here. So, I didn't follow up.

I totally understand he could be busy at making a living but that is not fair for the community. Many solutions here:

Two first solutions are my favourites. I'm ready to contribute actively and be part of a team that would make qtranslate-x more user-friendly so he would compete with WPML.

I suggest we open a Slack channel and start the team. Should I take care of this ? @raykai @VaLeXaR ?

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Saturday Jan 21, 2017 at 13:45 GMT

@adeacetis if @johnclause agree, I am not against. Of course, to develop the project alone is difficult. But for a sufficient number of volunteers and a few trusted administrators can develop this project. Contribution to the project @johnclause very large. Today qTranslate able to compete on equal terms with WMPL. But if @johnclause wants to monetize this project, the community can make a fork and develop a free version. A good example WP Sync DB, which is a fork WP Migrate DB. This project has 1378 stars and very popular, with great functionality. P.S. Sorry for my english :)

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by adeacetis Saturday Jan 21, 2017 at 15:40 GMT

Hi agree, @johnclause has made a HUGE contribution to the open source community. I'm not against he wanting to monetize his work but we need a more dynamic development cycle. We should be able to improve the plugin in a much faster fashion.

Good you've mentionen WP Sync DB, this is an awesome WP plugin.

Are we going to wait for @johnclause 's feedback ? What's the next step ?

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by johnclause Saturday Jan 21, 2017 at 17:12 GMT

I agree we need more dynamic cycle. I appreciate your compassion and understanding. I hope to gather a little bit of money after enough people do the recently published survey, and then we will be able to put a license server together. Meanwhile, we also need to take care of a few hot issues already reported after the latest WP updates. Hopefully within the next couple of weeks.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Saturday Jan 21, 2017 at 19:10 GMT

@johnclause, I think, WPGlobus is a fork of original qTranslate. This is seems like this. It have a free version and paid version. Logic of work is similar. And WPGlobus becoming popular. Everyone is waiting for your decision on further action. Competitors do not sleep. :)

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by adeacetis Saturday Jan 21, 2017 at 21:02 GMT

I didn't know about WPGlobus. It has indeed a lot of positive reviews. I'll answer to @johnclause survey Tomorrow. I'll get back to you afterwards.

@johnclause Can you help us out by labeling the hot issues you mentioned ? If not done yet, I'll put a list of the issues together and will post it here. Once we know what should be done I suggest we review the hot issues related to new WP versions and split the load among us.

Cheers,

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by blw Wednesday May 17, 2017 at 18:09 GMT

Any update on this? Can @johnclause add a few more admin to the repo maybe that will help?

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by herrvigg Wednesday Aug 30, 2017 at 16:34 GMT

hello, any news about this? Several months have passed now and there is no sign of life. This is an excellent plugin but it's really sad it doesn't get any update. If the main author (ownership?) wants to setup a paid support why not, and it could make sense for some business users, but it shouldn't prevent regular updates. Is there only 1 person having control over this?

WP Globus is much more active and i tried it. It's pretty good. Yet i wouldn't switch because qTranslate-X offers more functionalities (more options such as the difference between languages order and default language). But at a certain point if the main author doesn't move anymore, either the community should fork the project or move to another one. Preferably, the current qTranslate-X should continue to live, as it would benefit from the knowledge of the people here.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Wednesday Aug 30, 2017 at 16:38 GMT

@herrvigg while I`m waiting for the author's reactions, I developed my own plugin https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-multilang/

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by amouratoglou Thursday Sep 07, 2017 at 12:15 GMT

Hi @VaLeXaR does it work right out of the box with sites using Q-translate-x and addon plugins of Q-translate-X ?

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Thursday Sep 07, 2017 at 16:48 GMT

Hi @amouratoglou . My plugin is not compatible with addons for qTranslate. This is distinct plugin. I just use syntax of qTranslate for separate language string.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by amouratoglou Saturday Sep 09, 2017 at 16:06 GMT

So I guess that we can say RIP qtranslate-x ? I will have to consider switching to a new translation tool... this happened one time before when qtranslate was abandoned... then qtranslate-x appeared...

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by Blackbam Saturday Sep 09, 2017 at 16:18 GMT

Maybe somebody will show up and have the time to develop it further. Just speaking for me I do not need all the fuck WPML and the other translation Plugins offer.

If nobody will show up and develops qTranslate further as soon as I have the time I will create a simple as fuck language Plugin in the style of qTranslate for the translation of post types, taxonomies and option pages - or maybe I try to develop it further. However like most people I do not get paid for GPL software and I am still hoping someone else will do it ;-)

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by amouratoglou Saturday Sep 09, 2017 at 16:31 GMT

Creating a simple translation plugin is ok..the problem is when u have several sites running with this plugin.Some of the more complex, with e-commerce , etc... then it is critical... as in the future it is possible that sites running with this plugin all crash.

I'm pretty sure that it would be supported by community, via donations, we could boost the upgrade. I wish WP was right out of the box multilingual...

2017-09-09 13:18 GMT-03:00 Blackbam notifications@github.com:

Maybe somebody will show up and have the time to develop it further. Just speaking for me I do not need all the fuck WPML and the other translation Plugins offer.

  • I want to handle translation within a single post or page with a single ID
  • I want to choose easily which Custom fields are translated and which not (most are not such as prices, numbers, ...)
  • The only odd thing is the title and the editor, duplicating those I have always done with the qTranslate switcher
  • I do not care if RawML or duplication is used for multilanguage fields

If nobody will show up and develops qTranslate further as soon as I have the time I will create a simple as fuck language Plugin in the style of qTranslate for the translation of post types, taxonomies and option pages. However like most people I do not get paid for GPL software and I am still hoping someone else will do it ;-)

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herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by Blackbam Thursday Sep 14, 2017 at 23:31 GMT

@amouratoglou Sure but I had a few looks into the qTranslate code and it is possible - but a lot of work to make it ready for the future. Is there any information about further development?

What you say is true: As soon as full incompatibility with a new WordPress version arisis tens - maybe hundreds of thousands of websites will be down and even worse, they probably can not be repaired easily.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by amouratoglou Friday Sep 15, 2017 at 03:53 GMT

Do you think it won't work with new Wordpress? why? it has been pretty stable so far.

2017-09-14 20:31 GMT-03:00 Blackbam notifications@github.com:

@amouratoglou https://github.com/amouratoglou Sure but I had a few looks into the qTranslate code and it is possible - but a lot of work to make it ready for the future. Is there any information about further development?

As soon as full incompatibility with a new WordPress version arisis tens of thousands of websites will be down.

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herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Friday Sep 15, 2017 at 07:38 GMT

@amouratoglou qTranslate-X have error when using REST-API. It is also difficult for integration with other plugins. That's why I created my own plugin for multilingual. My plugin is compatible with those sites that use qTranslate-X or WPGlobus.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by openmtbmap Friday Sep 15, 2017 at 14:23 GMT

I think the whole editor should be kicked out - it's just replicating functionality and often gets broken. you can get much easier using [:] [:XX) tags. Make it simple, use the syntax and try to have it working in as many places as possible. That's all what is needed. Well I would like to have a syntax that is like [:XX|YY] so meaning content after this is only in language XX and YY but not other languages. [:] all languages and [:XX] single language. Of course that will make an editor much more complicated as the editor would need to filter a lot to find what is has to show - but as said no need for editor.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by Blackbam1337 Friday Sep 15, 2017 at 15:06 GMT

@amouratoglou Somebody MUST update it or it will start breaking slowly. Furthermore there would be still some optimizations which should be implemented (Permalinks, Widgets, Menus, REST-API, ...).

@openmtbmap In my projects I always have to provide a layer above this syntax as it is considered "to be to complex for customers to use it". This is sad but true.

Anyway you can always easily split the content and make seperate fields, the only really fucked up thing to duplicate in Widgets etc. is wp_editor. But even this problem should be solvable.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by The3IC Friday Sep 15, 2017 at 17:02 GMT

@VaLeXaR great initiative! A couple of comments/questions:

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by VaLeXaR Friday Sep 15, 2017 at 19:30 GMT

@The3IC

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by The3IC Saturday Sep 16, 2017 at 07:36 GMT

The plugins that I have tested are "Facebook Open Graph, Google+ and Twitter Card Tags" and "WPSSO". Currently using the meta features of AllIn1 SEO which kind of works but the overall meta support in AllIn1 is rather poor so I would really like to use a better/more dedicated plugin.

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by The3IC Saturday Sep 16, 2017 at 07:37 GMT

@VaLeXaR ps: in case you want to keep the basic plugin free, perhaps some add-on functions like the slug etc could be then a paid-for module to secure some revenue for you?

herrvigg commented 6 years ago

Comment by tivnet Monday Sep 18, 2017 at 13:39 GMT

Just to clarify: WPGlobus mentioned in one of the previous comments is not a fork of the original qTtranslate. It was indeed inspired by the qT plugin and we wrote it when the original qT was abandoned. However, the codebase is completely different.

We have never followed the development of any qT forks and do not officially provide any compatibility with them. If however, someone wants to switch from a qT site to WPGlobus and discovers any specific issues, we'll be glad to help to fix them.

Thank you! Gregory TIV.NET INC. / WPGlobus