quassbutreally / EasyCPDLC

Making CPDLC actually usable for pilots on VATSIM
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New features #15

Open javiationboy opened 2 years ago

javiationboy commented 2 years ago

Some of feature need is:

the ability to request weather information metar/taf of the dep/arr airports
the ability to request atis information of the online station from Vatsim
quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into implementing these.

becas22 commented 2 years ago

I would request a small aural sound (Airbus telephone ring, Boeing aural alert or maybe some other sound).

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

I would request a small aural sound (Airbus telephone ring, Boeing aural alert or maybe some other sound).

Do you mean an aural sound on receipt of a message?

mjpikat commented 2 years ago

Could you please considering adding an option to keep application "always visible"? Thanks

becas22 commented 2 years ago

Affirm

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Could you please considering adding an option to keep application "always visible"? Thanks

That's an excellent idea, yes I can. Expect it in the next build.

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Affirm

That should be already implemented. I'll have to have a look and see why that's not working

becas22 commented 2 years ago

Affirm

That should be already implemented. I'll have to have a look and see why that's not working

On the first use I didnt get any sounds. Now I do get what sounds like a goose being spanked lol

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Affirm

That should be already implemented. I'll have to have a look and see why that's not working

On the first use I didnt get any sounds. Now I do get what sounds like a goose being spanked lol

that's more or less what I was going for

SeaHawkGaming commented 2 years ago

Is there any plans to allow us to change that sound? I'd prefer something a little less jarring myself

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Is there any plans to allow us to change that sound? I'd prefer something a little less jarring myself

Yes, I put it there as a stopgap because I thought it was funny. Something more serious is coming in the next build.

BTI356 commented 2 years ago

I would suggest for PDC clearance acceptance, instead of using Wilco or Unable etc., use real world system where you either accept or choose "request" option, which sends you back to PDC clearance request where you can modify your requested clearance with new info

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

I would suggest for PDC clearance acceptance, instead of using Wilco or Unable etc., use real world system where you either accept or choose "request" option, which sends you back to PDC clearance request where you can modify your requested clearance with new info

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion. Going in, this was the plan I had for PDCs. The reason it doesn't work like this at the moment is because of a limitation with the Hoppie network. Put simply, ATC decides what reply options are available for the message and sends that as part of the message. If I send a reply that isn't one specified, it will not be counted as a valid response.

I could do some workaround to have the options display "ACCEPT", "REJECT" etc and handle the disparity in the background, if you think that'd make it more realistic. In terms of modifying the request, I would need to look at the documentation again, but at present I believe you would need to reject the current request before sending a new one with how Hoppie currently handles them.

Nevertheless, I shall investigate this weekend and get back to you. I'm hoping to push a new build on Sunday, so depending on how that goes this may or may not be included.

Josh

BTI356 commented 2 years ago

On a type i am currently flying, you cant reject ATC clearance, we only have option ACCEPT and REQ, and 2nd one takes you back to DEP CLRX page where you have to I guess write remarks with what you didnt like or cant accept in previous clearance, never had a case where i would reject clearance :)

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

On a type i am currently flying, you cant reject ATC clearance, we only have option ACCEPT and REQ, and 2nd one takes you back to DEP CLRX page where you have to I guess write remarks with what you didnt like or cant accept in previous clearance, never had a case where i would reject clearance :)

Thankyou for the insight! As I say, if I can implement this within the limitations of the network then I definitely will

BTI356 commented 2 years ago

Thanks!

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Thanks!

New version just pushed! I've developed a workaround at the moment that should change the options for DCLs to ACCEPT/REJECT. I can't guarantee that it'll work 100% of the time, and it comes with the caveat that it might not work for clearances from the UK, but within the limitations I've got to work with at the moment it's about the best I can do.

Let me know what you think!

javiationboy commented 2 years ago

hi, on the next update can we have a "hand free" options. What do I mean is to have a buttons with the DEP/ARR airport ready to inserted by a click on the METAR/TAF or other location where required. for the alternative I believe we can write but this airports (DEP/ARR) are the most common info entered each time and if we can just entered by a click make this app even more easy to use.

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

hi, on the next update can we have a "hand free" options. What do I mean is to have a buttons with the DEP/ARR airport ready to inserted by a click on the METAR/TAF or other location where required. for the alternative I believe we can write but this airports (DEP/ARR) are the most common info entered each time and if we can just entered by a click make this app even more easy to use.

absolutely. I'm hoping to have a big new build out this weekend, will look to get this implemented

Hansen82 commented 2 years ago

Requesting Oceanic Clearance via Hoppie? Is that possible yet, because both Shanwick and Gander announce it.

javiationboy commented 2 years ago

also I option to clean all massage in one click from the "home" as we getting a lots of messagge more and more ATC

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Requesting Oceanic Clearance via Hoppie? Is that possible yet, because both Shanwick and Gander announce it.

I'm working with the relevant VATSIM parties to get this integrated

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

also I option to clean all massage in one click from the "home" as we getting a lots of messagge more and more ATC

I'm in the process of cleaning up the home page anyway, so I can perhaps fit this into the UI

javiationboy commented 2 years ago

Requesting Oceanic Clearance via Hoppie? Is that possible yet, because both Shanwick and Gander announce it.

I'm working with the relevant VATSIM parties to get this integrated

do you think will be available before the CTP (02/04/2022)?

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

For this CTP, unfortunately not. It's something I've been working with Gander to get organised but the amount of effort required to get the controller clients updated to include everything that would be required (Hoppie integration into the euroscope plugin, conflict detection etc) plus the existence of competing and more universal solutions (ads-b and nattrak) have made it unfeasible. Domestically, I understand that VATUK and VATCAN will be running CPDLC so you'll have it on both sides of the pond, but the oceanic controllers can't run CPDLC at the moment.

In fairness to the oceanic controllers, a new version of NATTRAK is being introduced in time for CTP which is very, very good, and should make getting oceanic clearance very easy this year, it's just not on the cards for CPDLC in any capacity as the controllers don't have it.

I'm pushing to get this changed in time for Eastbound CTP this autumn.

javiationboy commented 2 years ago

We start to get a lots of SYSTEMS MESSAGE and not stopping..... any solution?

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

We start to get a lots of SYSTEMS MESSAGE and not stopping..... any solution?

What do the messages say? There should be more than just "SYSTEMS MESSAGE"

Hansen82 commented 2 years ago

Something along the lines of being unable to retrieve messages and it will retry. It may be a Hoppie issue since I see it with the cpdcl client as well.

Sincerely, Michael

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 We start to get a lots of SYSTEMS MESSAGE and not stopping..... any solution?

What do the messages say? There should be more than just "SYSTEMS MESSAGE"

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javiationboy commented 2 years ago

Something along the lines of being unable to retrieve messages and it will retry. It may be a Hoppie issue since I see it with the cpdcl client as well. Sincerely, Michael Den 22. maj 2022 kl. 19.20 skrev Joshua Seagrave @.***>:  We start to get a lots of SYSTEMS MESSAGE and not stopping..... any solution? What do the messages say? There should be more than just "SYSTEMS MESSAGE" — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. You are receiving this because you commented.

the same "issue", keep coming the message see here and [this](url

quassbutreally commented 2 years ago

Interesting. I didn't really account for Hoppie having issues when I build EasyCPDLC. It'll just keep trying until it works. Sorry gents. I'll tidy that up for the next build.