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LOLE and Black-out hours should the equal if import capacity and flex is zero #2425

Open ChaelKruip opened 7 years ago

ChaelKruip commented 7 years ago

In this scenario I have set the interconnector to zero and there are no batteries.

I expect the LOLE and Black-out hours to result in the same number of hours but they are 49 and 284 respectively.

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AlexanderWirtz commented 7 years ago

Indeed, @ChaelKruip and I noted this the other day when demonstrating the ETM. Very odd.

Blackout hours should be a subset of LOLE hours, as some LOLE events can be mitigated by imports. If imports are impossible, i.e. the system is an island, there is no difference between LOLE and blackout hours

antw commented 7 years ago

The implementation of these two metrics is different:

As far as I can tell, LOLE is a probability based on data pulled out of the ETE graph; blackout hours is an actual measurement of what's happening in Merit. Since LOLE is simply using the "total_demand" curve, it may also not be correctly influenced by the dynamic heat and EV curves.

Possibly the LOLE implementation is now out-of-date; Merit modelled neither import nor flexibility when LOLE was added.

See also:

AlexanderWirtz commented 7 years ago

Thanks @antw that clears things up. It seems to me we need to use the same method to calculate both metrics. @jorisberkhout had already mentioned that the two methods might be different.

The LOLE implementation is probably out of date. Can we calculate LOLE with merit? It would need to know about available import capacity.

ChaelKruip commented 7 years ago

It would need to know about available import capacity.

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The LOLE measure is independent of import. It compares local demand with local dispatchable capacity. In my mind, the black-out calculation without the aid of import could function as LOLE.

@jorisberkhout do you agree with this interpretation?

AlexanderWirtz commented 1 year ago

This issue is more recent and has a more complete description of how the LOLE calculation is not correct or consistent with the blackout hours calculation: https://github.com/quintel/etmodel/issues/2808