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Use direct emissions method in CO2 emissions of electricity production chart #3995

Open mabijkerk opened 2 years ago

mabijkerk commented 2 years ago

Problem: the chart CO2 emissions of electricity production contains emissions that arise from electricity production for the products natural gas, coal, lignite, oil and waste.

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The description of the chart states the following:

This chart only shows the direct emissions that arise from domestic electricity production. Indirect emissions from electricity production, for example emissions from hydrogen power plants or from imported electricity, are therefore left out of the chart.

However, the underlying queries, like coal_in_co2_of_electricity_production, use the primary co2 emission recursive factor. This means that they don't actually show direct emissions.

Solution: either new queries have to be written for this chart that actually calculate the direct emissions, or we should change the description to say that it calculates primary emissions. If we update the description I think we should actually show the primary emissions of all power plant types, so also hydrogen, imports etc.

@marliekeverweij do you agree that we should change the chart and if so, what is your preferred solution?

marliekeverweij commented 1 year ago

Interesting and good issue! However, I do not have a strong opinion on this. For Northern-Ireland we are using this chart, so maybe @DorinevanderVlies & @MartLubben have input?

@quintel/core if other people have an opinion

AlexanderWirtz commented 1 year ago

I agree with @mabijkerk let's include it all! Except if for local energy transition purposes there is a reason for the limited scope

DorinevanderVlies commented 1 year ago

Solution: either new queries have to be written for this chart that actually calculate the direct emissions, or we should change the description to say that it calculates primary emissions. If we update the description I think we should actually show the primary emissions of all power plant types, so also hydrogen, imports etc.

I am not certain about which definition is more common in politics and policy, direct or primary. For EirGrid the direct emissions are relevant. Some other users might prefer primary emissions and perhaps primary emissions is more in line with other charts and calculations in the ETM.

Furthermore we should take care that our charts remain MECE. Is there a risk of double counting if we include indirect CO2 emissions of for example hydrogen here as well as for hydrogen?

So, in short, I agree that this chart needs to change so it is in line with its description. But, I am no sure yet how we should change it.

Shall we have a live discussion about this?

mabijkerk commented 1 year ago

@DorinevanderVlies was there a conclusion about what to do with this chart?

mabijkerk commented 1 year ago

I had a discussion with @DorinevanderVlies and we arrived at the following conclusions:

Summary of issue

Conclusions

To do

This issue should be picked up as part of a structural enhancement in a broader project.