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quintel / etmoses

Online decision support tool to create local energy situations for neighbourhoods, cities and regions with a time resolution of 15 minutes created and maintained by Quintel – Not maintained
https://moses.energytransitionmodel.com
MIT License
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Double counting in ETMoses #1249

Open ChaelKruip opened 8 years ago

ChaelKruip commented 8 years ago

Currently, we model hot water and space heating separately. This has several unwanted side-effects:

To really solve this in an elegant way, we need to merge space heating and hot water combi-options in the ETM first.

ChaelKruip commented 8 years ago

Including @antw @dennisschoenmakers @grdw @jorisberkhout @AlexanderWirtz @DorinevanderVlies

grdw commented 8 years ago

Currently, we model hot water and space heating separately.

Is this for every technology that has a distinction between hot water and space heating? Or are we just talking buffers?

buffer_space_heating
households_space_heater_combined_network_gas
households_space_heater_district_heating_steam_hot_water
households_space_heater_electricity
households_space_heater_heatpump_air_water_electricity
households_space_heater_heatpump_ground_water_electricity
households_space_heater_hybrid_heatpump_air_water_electricity
households_space_heater_hybrid_heatpump_air_water_electricity_electricity
households_space_heater_hybrid_heatpump_air_water_electricity_gas
households_space_heater_micro_chp_network_gas
households_space_heater_network_gas

buffer_water_heating
households_water_heater_combined_network_gas
households_water_heater_district_heating_steam_hot_water
households_water_heater_fuel_cell_chp_network_gas
households_water_heater_heatpump_air_water_electricity
households_water_heater_heatpump_ground_water_electricity
households_water_heater_hybrid_heatpump_air_water_electricity
households_water_heater_hybrid_heatpump_air_water_electricity_electricity
households_water_heater_hybrid_heatpump_air_water_electricity_gas
households_water_heater_micro_chp_network_gas
households_water_heater_network_gas
households_water_heater_resistive_electricity
ChaelKruip commented 8 years ago

Is this for every technology that has a distinction between hot water and space heating?

Yes.

Or are we just talking buffers?

Every household has two buffers now. But connected to these buffers are technologies. I don't understand the question or the confusion 😕

dennisquintel commented 8 years ago

To really solve this in an elegant way, we need to merge space heating and hot water combi-options in the ETM first.

I strongly agree. We should try to fix it in the ETM to start with.

jorisberkhout commented 8 years ago

To really solve this in an elegant way, we need to merge space heating and hot water combi- options in the ETM first.

I strongly agree. We should try to fix it in the ETM to start with.

I agree with both of you, @ChaelKruip and @dennisschoenmakers . @ChaelKruip and I wrote a proposal for this merge that we never implemented because of time constraints. The proposal seems very valid still. More information on this proposal can be found in https://github.com/quintel/etmodel/issues/1595.

jorisberkhout commented 8 years ago

Related to https://github.com/quintel/etmodel/issues/2185