quintel / etmoses

Online decision support tool to create local energy situations for neighbourhoods, cities and regions with a time resolution of 15 minutes created and maintained by Quintel – Not maintained
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Questions regarding export of heat network #1574

Closed DorinevanderVlies closed 7 years ago

DorinevanderVlies commented 7 years ago

Summary

An external user contacted me because with a default export to ETM-SA he has significant heat deficits.

He has two questions:

To this I add the following question:

Details

This ETM scenario is scaled to 1000 households, it has district heating with 100% biogas CHP, both for hot water and for space heating.

The export to ETM-SA gives this LES. With 2.12 CHP plants with a capacity of 1111.1 kW:

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The standard setting (export to ETM-SA and standard profiles) give a heat deficit during the winter months: image

After using an aggregated profile for hot water (which is more realistic), the heat deficits can be balanced by scaling up the biogas CHP by roughly a factor 2.

antw commented 7 years ago

My guess is that this is simply due the differences in the way things are modelled in the ETM and ETM-SA.

I suspect the deficit is due to the ETM assuming demand can be met constantly throughout the year, but the ETM-SA profile is anything but equal.

I think the correct thing to do is to manually increase the number of CHPs until demand is met; I'm not sure what else we can do.

How to reconvert to emission reduction (in ETM) after scaling up the heat sources in ETM-SA?

I'm not sure what this means. πŸ˜•

DorinevanderVlies commented 7 years ago

Thanks @antw.


How to reconvert to emission reduction (in ETM) after scaling up the heat sources in ETM-SA?

I'm not sure what this means. πŸ˜•

The question originates from the effect on the scenario (e.g. CO2 emissions), when the ETM-SA analysis shows that the capacity from ETM is not sufficient. I think the answer to that is that the increased capacity in ETM-SA does not influence the outcome of the ETM scenario. Because the demand which is supplied is the same. This is true as long as no "must-run" source is used.


I can see the logic behind the calculation of the required capacity from a modelling point of view. On the other hand, from a user point of view, I think it is unsatisfactory that a standard export leads to deficits.

A possible solution to this is to make sure that with a standard profile the heat demand can be supplied by the source. @ChaelKruip what's your opinion?

ChaelKruip commented 7 years ago

A possible solution to this is to make sure that with a standard profile the heat demand can be supplied by the source. @ChaelKruip what's your opinion?

What is the 'standard profile'? I think this is a bigger theme: How do we align the energy picture of ETM with the load picture of ETM-SA?