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radian-software / selectrum

🔔 Better solution for incremental narrowing in Emacs.
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How is that a replacement for ido or ivy #566

Closed spiderbit closed 3 years ago

spiderbit commented 3 years ago

I am confused, I use for a very long time ido (with flex for M-x) but playing around with other completion frameworks recently, because I don't understand why vertical modes are so much hyped in emacs when monitors usually have much more horizontal space then vertical space and our eyes are also aligned horizontally and therefor our field of view, but that just as side note.

The problem I see here is that very basic features are missing to a point where I could see it been used in combination with IDO but not as replacement.

Take find-file, if I am in a directory let's say /notes/ and I press backspace I have to delete every char of "notes" to get to / which is in close to 100% not what anybody want, if you are in a directory and did not write chars for filenames and press backspace you expect to get 1 directory up.

That could be seen as missing feature even a very fundamental one, which ivy and ido does correct, but not enough, even with persistent mode activated the tab completion doesn't make any sense... when I have entered nothing it just completes to the first command? Why would it complete to anything without anything to use for completion?

Not to mention that I can't even see with repeated tab presses what fit's a completion, so if what you want to complete is not in the few lines selectrum shows then the only way to find what you want would be to scroll manually down with the cursor maybe over hundreds of options...

Well sorry for my rant like tone, but I don't get why there is even a comparison part of ido making some minor critique about it when having such huge flaws. Imho this oversales the current state of this package when it can't even deliver on this basic things.

minad commented 3 years ago

I recommend that you continue to use Ido if it works well for you. If you are seriously interested in the packages around Selectrum/Vertico/Consult etc, it would be great if your first interaction with the projects would be in a more friendly tone. This is free software and not a broken product sold to you with malicious intent. As I see it, your critique is mostly unfounded. I've been an Ido user myself and the transition is not difficult if you keep an open mind. Of course Ido differs from Selectrum in many ways, so it may not behave as you expected. In case you want to learn how these packages work and to find out if the features you are asking for are indeed supported, you can either read the extensive manuals or ask some knowledgeable and friendly Emacser on your favorite discussion platform.