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floatingText for incomplete texts #101

Closed raffazizzi closed 9 years ago

raffazizzi commented 14 years ago

Section 4.3.2 (#DSFLT) says, "The floatingText element should only be used for complete texts which form a part of the text being encoded." Why the prohibition against using this element for incomplete portions of texts? Is it because it's too hard to draw a line between a whole text and a few words in order to decide at what point your encoding warrants inclusion use of <floatingText> instead of just <q>?

By prohibiting its use when encoding all but a complete text, we make it impossible to encode the structure of a quoted text beyond elements available within <quote>. You can't encode various epistolary elements (dateline, salutation, etc.), title page elements, or other things available only within floatingText.

By analogy, we trust people to decide when to use

<rs>John Smith</rs>

and when to use

<rs> <persName> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Smith</surname> </persName> </rs>

so I think we can trust them to use <floatingText> only when warranted.

Original comment by: kshawkin

raffazizzi commented 14 years ago

I agree that this could potentially be rephrased. I think the intent behind the warning is that it is for wholly separate texts embedded in the host text , rather than caring whether that wholly embedded text is originally fragmentary or not. That is, if you are just quoting a bit of text (however long) then the various q/quote elements are appropriate. If you are embedding a text (or I would argue possible a full division of text) where you've included it in full but it itself is frgmentary, then floatingText still seems appropriate. If I now quoted the 3rd paragraph from the 1st chapter of the TEI P1 guidelines here, then that is quote. If I verbatim included the whole chapter as a for of embedded text that would be floatingText, if the sole surviving copy of TEI P1 chapter 1 only had the first two-thirds of it, then that would still be floatingText. At least that has always been my understanding of it, others mileage may very.

-James

Original comment by: jamescummings

raffazizzi commented 14 years ago

I suppose the word "complete" could be removed, or replaced with "distinct"? I think the intention is fairly clear, that floatingText is for things which have their own structure.

Original comment by: sebastianrahtz

raffazizzi commented 14 years ago

Using floatingText for things which have their own structure is quite sensible to me, but such an intention was not at all clear to me from the current prose of the Guidelines.

Original comment by: kshawkin

raffazizzi commented 13 years ago

cf #3106829 which seems to be on a similar point

Original comment by: lb42

raffazizzi commented 13 years ago

Original comment by: lb42

raffazizzi commented 13 years ago

The resolution of FR 3106829 obviates the need to address this since the offending statement will be replaced by one that allows you to use <floatingText> to "support mark up of a text or part of a text". Closing the ticket.

Original comment by: kshawkin

raffazizzi commented 13 years ago

Original comment by: kshawkin