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Why do you place the frequency generator on top of the heatsink? #266

Closed M-Reimer closed 2 years ago

M-Reimer commented 3 years ago

I've been searching the web extensively and all I could find that at some point it was done for the first time and from that time on everyone places it onto the heatsink.

Is there any reason why this is the preferred location? After all it's a heatsink and having a board in its way will not be too good to make it do its job.

I'm wondering if I could place a smaller board directly to the location where the potentiometers used to be? Any downsides of doing this? The only thing I could think of is coupling into the video lines. Is this a realistic issue (I guess I'll try it anyway. Just want to know what to look for)?

Sorry for posting this question as Issue. Could you enable the GitHub discussions feature for this project?

ramapcsx2 commented 3 years ago

It's a convenient location for a few reasons. Mainly it shields any clock noise from the analog parts in the ASIC, and secondly, it provides a good anchor point to screw in the board.

The heat sinking isn't required much. I've ran the scaler without any heatsink at all, and while not recommended, it worked just fine for hours. (It did get quite hot, but then stayed at that level.)

M-Reimer commented 3 years ago

Will give it a try if it has any disadvantage to mount a board where the potentiometers were mounted.

But now I have to get this thing to do something first. Already wasted half a day and can't get my SNES to output anything throuth this board. Most settings, for whatever reason, don't toggle at all in the web interface and all I can get this thing to display is a solid black screen :cry: Currently I have no clue what is going wrong and will give up for today. Maybe I have more success tomorrow....

M-Reimer commented 3 years ago

Created a new issue for my "black screen" problem: #267

wasbaun commented 2 years ago

Will give it a try if it has any disadvantage to mount a board where the potentiometers were mounted.

But now I have to get this thing to do something first. Already wasted half a day and can't get my SNES to output anything throuth this board. Most settings, for whatever reason, don't toggle at all in the web interface and all I can get this thing to display is a solid black screen 😢 Currently I have no clue what is going wrong and will give up for today. Maybe I have more success tomorrow....

Hi, did you notice any downside plcing the clockgen on the potentiometer location? Im planing to use this beceause, putting something on a heatsink lets me sleep not well ;-)

M-Reimer commented 2 years ago

frequency_generator_mounting

You can see how I mounted the generator in this image. To create the needed distance, I've added some FR4 (PCB board material without any copper on it) between the GBS board and the frequency converter board. I've used double sided tape for the mounting as this can be removed if I really have to.

I also had to cut a little bit on the lower portion in the image to make the generator board move a bit closer to the pin I actually want to solder to. If you do it that way you can just stick one wire for ground through to the GBS board which provides good low impedance ground coupling.

M-Reimer commented 2 years ago

Wiki updated.

https://github.com/ramapcsx2/gbs-control/wiki/Si5351-Clock-Generator-install-notes

So this Issue can be closed now.

M-Reimer commented 2 years ago

Forgot to mention: I also had to remove a bit from the left side of the generator board to add more distance to the video processor IC. But in the end it's up to you to modify my suggestion for your needs. Also depends on the tools you have.