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CM4IO designed using nightly version of KiCAD #1712

Closed craigarno closed 3 years ago

craigarno commented 3 years ago

I downloaded the CM4IO KiCAD files and discovered the files can't be opened using latest KiCAD production release version (5.1.7)-1.

Unfortunately it looks like this schematic/PCB design was created using a bleeding edge development "nightly" build which is -not- to be used for production. The apparent nightly build version used for this design is from version 20200828. Nightly version 20200828 is no longer available for download.

Using a current nightly kicad-r18494.e739d5ba65-x86_64.exe (v5.99 10/27/2020), the KiCAD PCB design is broken. None of the PCB traces are visible. There are also new PCB "Board Setup" data fields like "Differential Pairs" which are missing data needed by the current nightly KiCAD PCB builds.

It looks like a fair amount of work was done for this board design. The Schematic part still seems to work. Now to use the PCB design it needs to be redone or this SCH & PCB design package moved to 5.1.7 "production release" to be used. Or wait for 6.0 to become a "Released-Stable" version to go in and correct all the problems created by using a bleeding edge KiCAD development release for "production" design. 5.1.7 designs should transition to 6.0 when 6.0 is released.

What to do in the meantime? The PCB design without traces is largely not usable and back tracking to the nightly build which created this design is also not possible. image image

aallan commented 3 years ago

The apparent nightly build version used for this design is from version 20200828. Nightly version 20200828 is no longer available for download. Using a current nightly kicad-r18494.e739d5ba65-x86_64.exe (v5.99 10/27/2020), the KiCAD PCB design is broken.

Nightlies as recent as launch day, which was the 19th October, loaded the design files correctly.

JamesH65 commented 3 years ago

I think the problem is that the launch day version is no longer available, and the latest nightly does not work. So effectively there is no available KiCAD that will read the files.

aallan commented 3 years ago

Nightlies as far back as the 15th of October are available for download from the KiCad Downloads page, e.g. for Windows as the OP seems to be on Windows, see https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/index.html?prefix=windows/nightly/. Although thinking about it, it could be a Windows build problem, I doubt the files have been opened in a KiCad version that wasn't Linux or Mac.

dp111 commented 3 years ago

Works for me. Various objects are just hidden. The latest version enables you to change what is visible. See the Kicad blog for more details : https://kicad-pcb.org/blog/2020/10/Development-Highlight-PCBNew-Layers-DRC-and-Toolbar-Palettes/ .

aallan commented 3 years ago

The UI of KiCad has changed somewhat. See the comments on layer management in the recent blog post. If you go to the Appearance Control panel and click on the Objects tab you can find the visibility control for traces there.

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Jaronasdf commented 3 years ago

What happened to the 3D models in the zip file? They are not included anymore.. Does anyone have an older version they can share that has the 3D models? I need it for designing a housing.

Edit; I found it, it's still downloadable from the Wayback Machine

dp111 commented 3 years ago

I'm in the process of updating the 3dmodels to correct a few issues I've spotted I'll make a new release soon

craigarno commented 3 years ago

That fixed it for me in the nightly I downloaded. On the second tab [Objects]; Tracks, Vias, and Pads are "off" by default (sub-optimal default selections for a "new" feature). I use the Stable version 5.1.7 for production work. Nightlies are a moving target so not desirable unless I absolutely need a new 6.0 feature. Your CM4IO design is usable now, Thank you.

If you figure out why some of the 3D parts, mostly connectors don't show, I'd like to know this too. Otherwise my original issue is addressed.

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aallan commented 3 years ago

If you figure out why some of the 3D parts, mostly connectors don't show, I'd like to know this too. Otherwise my original issue is addressed.

See the comment above upthread about the 3d models. They have been temporarily removed.