[audio] Is there any support for libxmp, since it has a lite version for game dev?

[Lucas-Marcel]

I'm not a programmer and i'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to integrate them together. It works great with sdl2 cause it's nativelly integrated.

[Peter0x44]

Raylib uses jar_xm.h and jar_mod.h to play xm and mod respectively does this library do something specific you need, that raylib can't?

[chriscamacho]

does this library do something specific you need, that raylib can't?

absolutely, allows access to song position as well as channel info in real time, additionally allows you to reserve extra channels to play multiple sound effects at the same time...

[raysan5]

I'm afraid integration of libxmp is out of scope for raylib. raylib only integrates single-file header-only C libraries with a permissive license.

[Lucas-Marcel]

Yeah it's a single header file: "xmp.h". its written in c, i'm not sure about license though.

[raysan5]

@Lucas-Marcel I'm afraid it's not a single-file header-only library, checking the repo, the library consists of many .c files in the src directory. A single-file header-only library consists of only one .h file including header and implementation.

About the LICENSE, libxmp seems to be using LGPLv2, unfortunately that license is not compatible with raylib due to the restrictions impossed for static linking.

[Lucas-Marcel]

Ohh thats sad. I understand now. Libxmp seems to be the best library when it comes to tracker files though.

[orcmid]

@chriscamacho @Lucas-Marcel You might see if there is a configuration of miniaudio.h and some of the additional src/external/ files that will do what is wanted. The engine mechanism might work for multi-channel mix/control. It has been so long since I used trackers (at least 25 years) that I have not saved any of them and don't have any players. :smile: I am a bit surprised they are still used, although I can understand the appeal.

PS: Oh Wow. Modplug -> OpenMPT, Fasttracker -> MilkyTracker. Fascinatng. And with VSTs, use in Ableton, whatever. Amazing. I can see the appeal though. I assume the compactness of tracker files is a benefit in providing game sounds.
https://drummachineguy.com/top-trackers-7-of-the-best-music-trackers-2022/.

[gen2brain]

I don't see how libxmp is related to raylib. Nice single header library would be great, and that exists already. Libxmp is not related?

[Lucas-Marcel]

@orcmid thanks, i'll take a look. I use openmpt, i think it's the most complete one out there and you can use vsts. Yeah, trackers are cool.

[chriscamacho]

@orcmid - I went to significant trouble to implement multi channel audio in raylib no idea why its reverted to being monophonic again - big regression, rather than reimplement that again I'd rather just disable raylibs audio and use openAL static linking on multiple platforms is not an issue, and its easy enough to use...

[orcmid]

@chriscamacho > @orcmid - ... I'd rather just disable raylibs audio and use openAL static linking on multiple platforms is not an issue, and its easy enough to use...

That's interesting, Chris. Fortunately, I don't think I will be getting far into audio. The openAL and openAL Soft packages have licenses I prefer not to use with code I make in the open.

[Lucas-Marcel]

@orcmid Thanks for the tips, after almost 1 month and almost nothing related on the internet. i managed to implement lixmp along with miniaudio, lol. made a small cli to play trackers. I can finally use libxmp and raylib together. By the way can i disable raylib's audio? Maybe i missed that when building with cmake.

[Peter0x44]

comment out the line: #define SUPPORT_MODULE_RAUDIO 1 in src/config.h, and then build raylib again.

[Lucas-Marcel]

@Peter0x44 Thanks