LightTable live coding?

[luposlip]

Hi there!

I'm considering Reagent vs. OM. I'm using LightTable.

So far I haven't been able to successfully use Reagent with LightTable live coding. With OM it works every time (following the first section in this tutorial: https://github.com/swannodette/om/wiki/Basic-Tutorial).

Any hints to getting it to work with Reagent? :-)

Thanks in advance - Reagent looks really promising by the way! :)

Best regards, Henrik

[holmsand]

Yes, the LightTable/Reagent combo is a little tricky. Right now you should be able to change data dynamically, and have it update immediately in the browser.

But code is another matter. The problem is this: child components don't re-render unless their data (either an atom or their arguments) change – that's what makes Reagent fast. Unfortunately this also makes it awkward to force an update, which is what I think you'd want to do in LightTable.

So, what Reagent needs (I think) to work better with LightTable is a way to globally disable the caching. I'm not sure about the right api, though. Perhaps simply (reagent.core/always-update false) or some-such?

Any thoughts?

Side note: In an ideal world, I'd like to be able to re-render everything automatically whenever you eval something in LightTable. But I don't think LightTable exposes the necessary hooks for that to be possible right now (but I haven't looked into this very deeply, so I might be completely wrong). It would be very cool, though.

[luposlip]

A config-var like the one you suggest - for development purposes - would work just fine for me.

Right now I'm just really hooked on the whole live coding gimmick, so the sooner I can start living out this dream with Reagent, the sooner I'll start using Reagent for serious stuff! :-)

Anything I can do to assist - let me know.

[holmsand]

Ok, I've been living the dream a little :)

I've added an experimental reagent.core/force-update-all, that re-mounts and re-renders all root components. That can be used either by eval-ing it directly in LightTable, or by adding something like

             "alt-r" [:eval-editor-form
                       (:eval.custom
                        "(if (exists? reagent.core/force-update-all)
                          (reagent.core/force-update-all)
                          \"Not available\")"
                        {:result-type :statusbar})]

to the :editor section in user.keymap.

Then, alt-r will eval the current form, just like cmd-return, and reload all components at once. It seems to work fairly well, in my very hasty testing.

There is one gotcha, though. If do, say, (reagent/render-component [foo] (.-body js/document)), and then later eval foo, it will not be updated directly (you'll have to do the render-component again). That is because the function foo is passed by value, so there's no way for Reagent to know that it has changed (that I can think of, at least).

foo's children will be re-rendered though, so a solution for now is simply to pass a another component to render-component, that returns [foo].

If you have an idea for a more elegant solution, let me know!

[luposlip]

Great news! :+1: Seems like I haven't too much luck in using your new code though.. Perhaps I need more insight in Leiningen. I have a project with dependency reagent "0.4.3-SNAPSHOT". I've build 0.4.3-SNAPSHOT using lein cljsbuild once. Then I install it in my local m2 repo with lein install.

When I look in the .m2 repo for the local reagent-0.4.3-SNAPSHOT.jar, it contains the new version of core.cljs with force-update-all.

But my local project can't seem to find any reagent classes at all, until I revert my dependency to 0.4.2.

Any hints? :-)

[holmsand]

I constantly feel I need more insight into Leiningen's mysteries as well :)

I can only say that it should work... When you do lein install, you should get a directory in ~/.m2/repository/reagent/reagent, containing reagent-0.4.3-SNAPSHOT.jar. Then you should be able to use [reagent "0.4.3-SNAPSHOT"] in :dependencies. At least that works for me :)

Btw, you can actually skip the "lein cljsbuild once" step.lein install ought to be enough (it basically just packs all the sources into a jar, without touching anything compiled).

[luposlip]

Alrighty ;) I managed to get something to work with the supplied demo app. And when I press the suggested alt+r LightTable returns the "Updated" status. But the UI doesn't update anyhow.

I'll try to figure out why my leiningen won't use the local reagent-0.4.3-SNAPSHOT.jar.

Would you mind to email me the sample app you have where it works (luposlip at gmail dot com)?

Thanks again! :)

[holmsand]

Ok, I think you're on your way :) If it says "Updated", that means that the new version has been picked up by LightTable at least.

I just pushed a commit where render-component optionally takes a function returning a component, instead of the component directly, which should make LightTable happier. So, instead of (reagent/render-component [foo] (.-body js/document)) you can do (reagent/render-component (fn [] [foo]) (.-body js/document))

To see it in use you can check out the "simple" example, in the examples directory. It should work out of the box, after the usual lein install dance. Hopefully. :)

Just git pull, cd into examples/simple, and run make. If you then open the "example/simple" directory as a workspace in LT, you ought to be able to just (a) open example.html, (b) hit cmd-return, and (c) change something and hit alt-r. Again, hopefully :)

[luposlip]

Holy Moly - it works! :-D

Great stuff Dan, thanks a bunch!! As of exactly right now, I'll start using Reagent for real stuff!

God aften i det Stockholmske!

[luposlip]

Hey again - when do you plan to have an official release (0.4.3) containing this lighttable "hack"?

Best, Henrik

[holmsand]

Well, I plan to do a release a couple of weeks ago :) That plan obviously didn't work out, unfortunately, as plans tend to do.

I want to do some more testing before I release. Hopefully I can get some time to do that next week.

Thanks for reminding my already quite bad conscience...

[luposlip]

Hi Dan,

Not to tickle your bad conscience any further, but I really need an official release with react 0.10.0 (and lighttable is a great add-on bonus). Any idea on when you'll get the time? :-)

Best regards, Henrik