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The SWS extension is a collection of features that seamlessly integrate into REAPER, the Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) software by Cockos, Inc
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Accessibility: When I use the "Track: View FX chain for master track" action it is not possible to move the plugins up or down in the master track #1794

Closed Lo-lo78 closed 7 months ago

Lo-lo78 commented 10 months ago

Hi if I select the master track and do the action: "Track: View FX chain for current/last touched track" SWS actions: "SWS/S&M: Move selected FX up in chain for selected tracks" ""SWS/S&M: Move selected FX down in chain for selected tracks" They work well. But if I go to the FX chain of the master track using the action: "Track: View FX chain for master track" SWS actions do not move plugins up or down. This last action of Reaper is very convenient because it does not deselect the track you are working on. For example: I'm on track 5 and I make the shortcut connected to the action: "Track: View FX chain for master track" and if I exit the FX chain I find myself in the TCP in track 5 and not in the master track. Is it possible to create various actions where you can move the plugins throughout Reaper's FX chains? For Monitor FX it's not essential but for track master items and FX containers I think it can help the workflow. Thank you all for your work! "

cfillion commented 10 months ago

Is the master track selected? If not, you'll need to use "SWS: Select master track" before "SWS/S&M: Move selected FX up/down in chain for selected tracks". Might want to use "Track: Unselect all tracks" first as well.

Lo-lo78 commented 7 months ago

@cfillion The action: "Track: View FX chain for master track" can't it have two actions that move the plugins up or down only when the FX chain is open? Thanks anyway for your interest!

cfillion commented 7 months ago

Create a custom action containing the following three actions:

Then after running that custom action, "SWS/S&M: Move selected FX down in chain for selected tracks" (or up) will take effect on the master track.

Lo-lo78 commented 7 months ago

@cfillion Yes, you can create a custom action. Surely there is no problem with the mouse but I use the keyboard. The problem is another. For example: I'm on track 5, I make the shortcut to go directly to the FX chain, I move the plugin and with the "esc" key I return to track 5. With the custom action I have the master selected and I lose the selection of track 5. Yes, I already tried but this was exactly what I wanted to avoid. That is, losing track selection. Thank you!

Buy-One commented 7 months ago

There're scripts by me2beats available via ReaPack

me2beats_Save selected tracks.lua me2beats_Restore selected tracks.lua

The first can be included in the custom action before the action which selects the Master track. The second can be run manually after managing the Master track FX chain.

cfillion commented 7 months ago

There are also ones built-in into SWS:

Buy-One commented 7 months ago

Oh, missed these.

Lo-lo78 commented 7 months ago

@cfillion @Buy-One I've tried both solutions and they don't work with custom actions. With SWS actions we basically emulate the action: "Track: View FX chain for master track" Identical effect. When I open the master's FX chain the plugins don't move and I return to the previously selected track. With ReaPack actions: "me2beats_Save selected tracks.lua" "me2beats_Restore selected tracks.lua" It does not work well. It always goes to a wrong track and I have to occupy another shortcut in the keymap. When using the computer keyboard, shortcuts are very important. My hypothesis is that if the master track is not visible in the TCP the plugins do not move. This is why the @cfillion proposal is perfect in theory but it doesn't work. When the action occurs in the custom action: "SWS: Restore saved track selection" it's as if the master track is no longer selected and perhaps not visible in the TCP and works exactly like the action: "Track: View FX chain for current/last touched track" this keeps the selected track and maybe you don't see the master track in the TCP and it behaves like the custom action? I think it's harder than I thought! I'm blind and I don't know if it's a visual issue but certainly if the master track is not selected the plugins in the fx chain don't move.

Sorry for the English. THANK YOU!

cfillion commented 7 months ago

The following custom action works here (tested on Windows w/ SWS 2.13.2 and upcoming 2.14):

  1. SWS: Save current track selection
  2. Track: Unselect (clear selection of) all tracks
  3. Track: View FX chain for master track
  4. SWS: Select master track
  5. SWS/S&M: Move selected FX down in chain for selected tracks
  6. SWS: Restore saved track selection
Lo-lo78 commented 7 months ago

@cfillion

The following custom action works here (tested on Windows w/ SWS 2.13.2 and upcoming 2.14):

1. SWS: Save current track selection

2. Track: Unselect (clear selection of) all tracks

3. Track: View FX chain for master track

4. SWS: Select master track

5. SWS/S&M: Move selected FX down in chain for selected tracks

6. SWS: Restore saved track selection

Hello in the custom action the action in point 5 SWS: "SWS/S&M: Move selected FX down in chain for selected tracks" should not be entered. When I enter the FX chain the two SWS action:

  1. "SWS/S&M: Move selected FX up in chain for selected tracks"
  2. "SWS/S&M: Move selected FX down in chain for selected tracks" to order an FX chain. The custom action just needs to go into the FX chain and then I manually order the plugins. This should be the functionality of the custom action. The behavior should be to enter the FX chain and then work on the chain to sort the plugin instances. Maybe we can do more with cycle actions? Thank you!
Buy-One commented 7 months ago

Maybe we can do more with cycle actions?

If shortcuts must be used sparingly, then a step cycle action could be a solution, it will have two states activated with a single shortcut. At its first step it'd save track selection and select the Master track and at its second step it'd restore the original track selection.

Lo-lo78 commented 7 months ago

@Buy-One It's not perfect but the cycle action works:

  1. _SWS_SAVESEL; Description: Save current track selection
  2. 40297; Description: Track: Unselect (clear selection of) all tracks
  3. 40846; Description: Track: View FX chain for master track
  4. _SWS_SELMASTER; Description: Select master track
  5. !Step; Description: ----- Step -----
  6. _SWS_RESTORESEL; Description: Restore saved track selection

It's almost perfect. If I press the escape key to exit the FX chain I have to redo the shortcut to go to the saved track. The advantage is that I only use one shortcut. The perfection would be that if I press the escape key it automatically returns to the previously saved track without making the shortcut twice. Maybe Cockos should create another section for the FX chain for the keymap. This solves everything! Thanks you are fantastic!

Buy-One commented 7 months ago

Depending on your workflow the action SWS/S&M: Close all FX chain windows could be added to the second step of the cycle action. This will obviate usage of Esc to close the Master track FX chain, but will close other open FX chain windows as well which could be a disadvantage.

Lo-lo78 commented 7 months ago

@Buy-One yes I know the action and for those who are blind it is very useful with the screen reader when working with those who can see. Sometimes windows overlap visually and with the screen reader you don't know it. While I work in a track it is possible that the viewer sees other windows. I try to assign another shortcut and insert this action. Perhaps it will be possible to automate the entire process. Thank you!

P.S. How useful would a section for a keymap for the FX Chain be. ;)) Maybe in the future Justin will.

Lo-lo78 commented 7 months ago

@Buy-One It works perfectly! 👍