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REBIPP: Plant-Pollinator Interactions Data Vocabulary
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pollinate #22

Closed zedomel closed 3 years ago

zedomel commented 3 years ago
Field Value
GUID
Rebipp Class rebipp:Interaction
Label pollinate
Definition Indicates if the animal touches the reproductive structures (anthers and stigmas) of a flower during the visit (pollination).
Comments Recommended best practice is to use values which can be converted to boolean (TRUE or FALSE) such as 0/1, true/false, yes/no.
Examples yes, no, 0, true
Controlled vocabulary
Darwin Core Class Event
Cardinality One to one
Reference Protocol
carmensspires commented 3 years ago

By definition we are wondering if the floral visitor is a potential pollinator. So I suggest changing the label to:

Is there a letter or word limit for labels?

zedomel commented 3 years ago

@carmensspires we should avoid to use special characters in term's label.

But, the discussion that I want to bring here is:

The problem that I see is that pollination is not inferred at the moment of the observation, but instead, it will be inferred later when the visitation proves to transferring pollen and fruit development. But the definition, simplify it to be touches the reproductive structures, that in fact is something that can be observed in the field, and so, I wondering if we can just eliminate this term and create a value pollinates in the controlled vocabulary for Interaction Type.

fonturbel commented 3 years ago

Why not have two options: flower visitor or pollinator. The first one indicates that the animal visits the flower but we don't know if it actually pollinates or not The second indicates that we have evidence that the animally do pollinate the flower

lgcarvalheiro commented 3 years ago

an alternative (for this term) that allows for doubt on the efficiency of pollination: touches the reproductive structures?

zedomel commented 3 years ago

@lgcarvalheiro I like the ideia.

So, I propose to change the term label to touchesReproductiveStructures, and the controlled vocab should be true and false

Then, the term definition can be: Indicates if the animal touches the reproductive structures (anthers and stigmas) of a flower during visitation. or Indicates if the animal touches the reproductive structures (anthers and stigmas) of a flower during the interaction.

pjbergamo commented 3 years ago

I agree with changing to touchesReproductiveStructures and the first definition (...of a flower during visitation). I could not find the term Interaction Type to check if it overlaps with this one here.

zedomel commented 3 years ago

@pjbergamo we do not have a term Interaction Type, probably we will use one dwc: relationshipOfResource. But it depends on the data model. For now, we have a controlled vocab for dwc:relationshipOfResource as defined in the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MM5Yh2l0Zkbq708vh6L1KRJEDqfhOQHBobVyFPblGL0/edit#heading=h.yk3lixnmphkr. In that document you will see that we already have the terms pollinates and pollinated by, so this term here appears redundant.

carmensspires commented 3 years ago

I agree with with changing to touchesReproductiveStructures.

Mardiore commented 3 years ago

I agree with touchesReproductiveStructures

zedomel commented 3 years ago

Term's label will be changed to touchesReproductiveStructures and the definition to Indicates if the animal touches the reproductive structures (anthers or stigmas) of a flower during visitation