pollenTubesQuantity

[zedomel]

Field	Value
GUID
Rebipp Class	rebipp:InteractionOutcome
Label	pollenTubesQuantity
Definition	The number or enumeration value for the quantity of pollen tubes growing in the style of the flower in which the Interaction was recorded when exposed to multiple visitors.
Comments	Should be filled with the number of pollen grains removed from the anthers after one visit.
Examples
Controlled vocabulary
Darwin Core Class	Event
Cardinality	One to many
Reference Protocol

[zedomel]

Change term definition to: The quantity of pollen tubes growing in the style of the flower in which the Interaction was recorded when exposed to multiple visitors.

This definition is different from some similar measurements. Here, the Interaction is explicit in the definition, meaning that this measure must to be made in the same flower where the interaction occurred. So, the Interaction must also be recorded. Can we change it, so this relationship with Interaction can be removed? Then, we will have a general term for the **quantity of pollen tubes growing in a particular flowerthat can or can not be linked to anInteraction`.

Also, as in #41 should the multiple visitors be removed and replace by the adoption of a new term flowerState?

Can someone provide examples of usage of this term?

[Filipi-Soares]

Hello, @zedomel! I found this paper that might be useful to provide some examples: Stavert, J.R., Bailey, C., Kirkland, L. et al. Pollen tube growth from multiple pollinator visits more accurately quantifies pollinator performance and plant reproduction. Sci Rep 10, 16958 (2020). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-020-73637-5. In the Results section the authors present a graph with the number of pollen tubes by stylar region of the flower.

[zedomel]

@Filipi-Soares thank you for your contribution.

But, maybe we need more examples of datasets (raw data) than summarised data as we found on papers.

Papers are very useful to understand the protocols, the process of collecting data, and types of analysis that people usually do.

I have used Google Dataset Search to find examples of datasets. But it will be very nice to have examples from this community.

I will take a look into the paper and see what we can learn from that.

Thanks very much.

[fonturbel]

I have no comments on this one

[cepnunes]

@zedomel , in this case I would simplify the definition to: "The quantity of pollen tubes growing in the style of the flower in which the Interaction was recorded. " And leave the information about the visitors (multiple or single) to come from other existing fields.

[zedomel]

@cepnunes, is it always possible to link the flower with the Interaction? Or sometimes we have the number of pollen tubes but no ways to know which Interactions were responsible for that outcome?

[pjbergamo]

Sorry, but we are running in circles here. The discussion in #41 applies here (as I also mentioned in #37 ). All reproductive success variables may follow what was discussed in #41 : #36 , #34 , #10 , #37 #11

[anselmoeco]

I agree with @pjbergamo. Also, the reproductive success variables could be included in the solution that @zedomel is looking for variable # 55 ovuleQuantity: "Maybe, we will have to use separated terms for specifying if a measurement if an individual measurement or an aggregate measurement (e.g. average)".

[carmensspires]

I cannot contribute to this topic....

[zedomel]

Based on discussions #41, #37, #36, #34, #10 and #11 the new definition should be: The number of pollen tubes growing in the style of a flower exposed to multiple floral visitors.