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REBIPP: Plant-Pollinator Interactions Data Vocabulary
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matingSystem #54

Closed zedomel closed 3 years ago

zedomel commented 3 years ago
Field Value
GUID
Rebipp Class rebipp:PlantTrait
Label matingSystem
Definition The general mode of gene transfer from one generation to the next through sexual reproduction of the plant species represented in the Occurrence.
Comments Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary.
Examples autogamous, xenogamous
Controlled vocabulary autogamous; xenogamous
Darwin Core Class Occurrence
Cardinality One to one
Reference Protocol
fonturbel commented 3 years ago

OK with me, nothing to add.

zedomel commented 3 years ago

This a term related to the plant species, should we do the same as in #57 (use dwc:Taxonas core and dwc:Occurrence as extension) or it is fine to use with dwc:Occurrence as core?

Should we extended the controlled vocab with the term geitonogamy ?

viniciusduartina commented 3 years ago

I think you should include geitonogamy as an option, but these values should not be exclusive because the same plant could reproduce by autogamy and xenogamy, for example.

pietrokiyoshi commented 3 years ago

@viniciusduartina agree!

zedomel commented 3 years ago

@viniciusduartina so we should allow a list of values. New definition: A list (concatenated and separated) of the general modes of gene transfer from one generation to the next through sexual reproduction of the plant species represented in the Occurrence. Add to Comments: Recommended best practice is to separate the values in a list with space vertical bar space ( | )

Is it better?

arech2003 commented 3 years ago

Why not only The general modes of gene transfer from on generation to the next through sexual reproduction othe the plant species represented in the occurrence? To me general modes is already in the plural and can include both if required. Using "a list" it suggest to me that one should find more than one always... Geitonogamy is a mix between mating system and pollination system as it still autogamous from the genetic perspective (maybe not if we go very deep as plants have modules in different branches, but nobody will have data for this) but it is not able to set fruit without pollination moving pollen from flower to flower within the individual. At the end of the day I feel we do not loose any information adding it despite its complexity...

joiceiamara commented 3 years ago

If using "a list" suggests that one should use more than one, other cases should be review, for instance case #43... however, I do not think that this is the case. @zedomel suggestion works fine to me. Perhaps set the example, as was done for the case I mentioned.

zedomel commented 3 years ago

@arech2003 and @joiceiamara I understand the problem with the a list..., but I feel that we should make explicit that the term accepts multiple values and it must be concatenated and separated. We can remove it from the definition and use the plural general mode(s) as @arech2003 suggested. But we should include the sentence a list... into the Comments.

joiceiamara commented 3 years ago

@zedomel, actually I have no problems using "a list" and so as not to appear that more than one entry should be used, we could use the example as "autogamous, xenogamous, autogamous | xenogamous"

carmensspires commented 3 years ago

Nothing to add

viniciusduartina commented 3 years ago

@zedomel, it seems that a list will do the job. Another observation: mating may occur not only "through sexual reproduction". Moreover, mating is a not a species trait. Thus I would reconsider (if possible) the definition as "A list (concatenated and separated) of the general modes of gene transfer from one generation to the next through reproduction."

zedomel commented 3 years ago

@viniciusduartina the definition comes from Carsodo et al. 2018:

The different terminologies within the mating systems consider the mode of gene transfer from one generation to the next through sexual reproduction.

But, of course, we can create our own definition as you suggested. Could you give examples and controlled vocab terms for that?

cepnunes commented 3 years ago

Agree with @viniciusduartina . Nothing to add!

viniciusduartina commented 3 years ago

@zedomel, I think we can skip the "sexual" word from the definition of Cardoso et al. 2018 with no prejudice because it is a little bit misleading. I would suggest the vocabs: autogamous, xenogamous and geitonogamous. Again, such values may be not exclusive.

zedomel commented 3 years ago

@viniciusduartina this term refers to the individual or to the species? Depends on that, should this term still accept multiple values?

Mardiore commented 3 years ago

Agree with @viniciusduartina . Nothing to add!

paf1306 commented 3 years ago

I also agree with @viniciusduartina . Nothing else to add.

zedomel commented 3 years ago

New definition: A list (concatenated and separated) of the general modes of gene transfer from one generation to the next through reproduction of a plant species Comments: Recommended best practice is to separate the values in a list with space vertical bar space ( | )