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RelatonIso: ISO Standards metadata using the BibliographicItem model
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Relation types #20

Closed andrew2net closed 6 years ago

andrew2net commented 6 years ago

@ronaldtse On www.iso.org there are relations "Will be replaced by" and "Now confirmed". How they correspond to allowed relation types "adoptedFrom", "child", "complements", "derivedFrom", "equivalent", "identical", "nonequivalent", "obsoletes", "parent", "updatedBy" or "updates"?

opoudjis commented 6 years ago

@ronaldtse, ping.

@andrew2net, please assign me any questions you have; I'm too busy to identify things from my feed.

"Will be replaced by" = "updatedBy"

"Now confirmed": it sounds like "updatedBy", but I don't quite understand how this works as a document relation. Could you give an example?

ronaldtse commented 6 years ago

"Now confirmed" means it is still current -- it has been reviewed and confirmed that no change is needed. Maybe we can represent it with a bibdate of "confirmed"?

andrew2net commented 6 years ago

@opoudjis this is a doc with "Now confirmed" relation https://www.iso.org/standard/23281.html

opoudjis commented 6 years ago

@ronaldtse A bibdate of "confirmed" still isn't a bibrelation.

@andrew2net Wow. That is very misleadingly expressed on the website. The "previously" is the item being updated by the current item; so it does express a document relation. The "now confirmed" item, however, is the current document: it's ISO 123:2001, which is what the page is about. So "now confirmed" is not a relation of the current document to another document: it is an expression of the status of the current document. (And the status is what Ronald said.)

That means that we never expect "now confirmed" to contain any document identifier other than that of the current document.

ronaldtse commented 6 years ago

@opoudjis yes a bibdate is a bibdate, not a bibrelation.

And yes you are right, a "now confirmed" is not a bibrelation.