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Cannot donate using PayPal. How to donate? #1808

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
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I wanted to donate to ConEmu. However I cannot do it with PayPal. PayPal will 
not send the money to Russian account. I don't want to do it with flattr, 
because I want to control the amount and not split it. 

Any other way to donate?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by jonthoro...@gmail.com on 12 Nov 2014 at 10:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Is WebMoney transfer an option?

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 13 Nov 2014 at 10:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I looked into this WebMoney thing. Looks like quite the favorite in Russia :)

I have signed up and need to add a purse. I must admit that I have sort of no 
idea what to do now. Do I need a WMR purse to transfer to you? Can I use a 
credit card to top up a purse? (Bank transfers are a HUGE fucking hassle in 
Iceland since the financial collapse.)

If you want to accept donation, and since PayPal are such idiots not to send 
money to Russian accounts, maybe you could write up a small how-to page?

Or if if you know flattr actually works, I can just use that. Seems like the 
simplest option now :)

Original comment by jonthoro...@gmail.com on 14 Nov 2014 at 12:41

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I'm almost new to webmoney too. Still looking for options...

AFAIK you need to create WME or WMZ purse and fill it. After that you may 
transfer WME or WMZ to another user (ConEmu's) purse.

As for flattr. AFAIK you choose "month amount" which will be divided to all 
creators flattred by you (flattred during current month? I'm not sure).

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 14 Nov 2014 at 12:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Here is the list of available ways to fill your purse:
http://www.wmtransfer.com/eng/inout/topup.shtml

Seems like "exchange points" is the simplest way. It's possible to exchange 
PayPal too.

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 14 Nov 2014 at 1:02

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Nope. I get a list of Russian stuff, none of which is very helpful :-P I found 
a couple of sites that do this for an exchange fee of 12-30% and they are all 
in Russian and I don't know how reputable they are.. 

I found one that is supposed to be reputable and it looks like they only take 
clients on referral basis: http://exwp.com/req/conditions_en.html. This is all 
a bit how it used to be in Iceland in the 80s when you had to go to the bank 
director himself to exchange money when you were travelling abroad..

I am a bit surprised that WebMoney doesn't just take bloody credit cards.

I'm giving up on WebMoney. Will use flattr. Hopefully that will work nicely. 
According to their blog they will be adding one time donations again to their 
line of services so that will make things easier in the future. Their service 
fee is a bit steep or 10% but seems to be less than all the PayPal+WebMoney 
options. 

Original comment by jonthoro...@gmail.com on 14 Nov 2014 at 2:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
For those who are wondering about flattr. 

You decide on monthly budget. If you only flattr one thing during the month, 
that one thing gets all the budget (minus 10% service fee) on the 10th of next 
month. For each flattr, the budget is divided between those things. So to use 
your months budget for one time donation you have to be careful not to flattr 
anything else during this month.. You can not flattr one thing multiple times 
to give unequal amounts to different things. You could support one creator 
more, by flattring lots different things he has created. 

So the philosophy here is not for 'targeted' donation but microdonation for 
lots of small things you like, like blogposts and youtube videos. Everyone gets 
equal division of your funds, you cannot assign a preference. (this might 
change soon, so that you can also use funds for larger one time donations)

If you want to support some endeavor better you can 'subscribe' and he will 
automatically get flattr from you each month.

If you flattr nothing in a whole month, no money will be taken from your 
budget, because there is no-one to divide it between.

If you don't have funds for monthly budget, you will not be charged 
automatically from CC. You will just not be able to flattr for that month until 
you top-up to have sufficient funds.

I could top up easily with credit card from Iceland, so I think they will 
accept CC from lot of countries.

So basically. Not a good model for one time donation at this point (may change 
in the future), but much easier for me to use than WebMoney. Now let's just 
hope it is as easy for Russian creators to reclaim flattr money as it is for me 
to spend it.

Original comment by jonthoro...@gmail.com on 14 Nov 2014 at 3:33

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
On the donation page I've added Yandex.Money option
http://conemu.github.io/donate.html

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 30 Dec 2014 at 11:48

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 30 Dec 2014 at 11:48

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Issue 1888 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 30 Jan 2015 at 2:45

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Were you able to get your payment from flattr?

Original comment by jonthoro...@gmail.com on 30 Jan 2015 at 3:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I'm worry that nowhere soon. Flattr stops withdrawal to PayPal Russia 
completely (any account, not me only).

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 30 Jan 2015 at 3:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Bitcoin may be? But I'm not sure it's easy.

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 30 Jan 2015 at 4:40

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Hi, I contacted Flattr. They say that they can currently pay out to creators in 
Russia through Skrill and will do bank transfers in the future. You might want 
to look into that.

Original comment by jonthoro...@gmail.com on 2 Feb 2015 at 12:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Skrill do not accept "donations" to Russia accounts. Same as PayPal.
In fact they request charity license from me. Really?

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 2 Feb 2015 at 1:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Hi,
are you unable to register at Skrill or SkrilliT and claim your money from
Flattr? This is just getting ridiculous...

Original comment by jonthoro...@gmail.com on 2 Feb 2015 at 1:17

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I'm registered. And claimed money from Flattr once.

But! I'd asked Skrill about donations and they answered that I must provide 
charity license.

As I said, PayPal'd said exactly the same. So it's possible that Skrill will 
block such transactions soon too.

That is completely weird. I'm not a charity organization. Why I must have 
license for that?

I wonder if foreign (US/UK) developers have any issues with "charity licenses"?

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 2 Feb 2015 at 1:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I think, this might be the result of US&EU boycott (Putin refuses to extradite 
Snowden).

Perhaps, via an Asian bank?

Original comment by mb97...@gmail.com on 2 Feb 2015 at 5:37

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Trying to register on alipay. Unsuccessfully yet.

At the moment, bitcoin seems line most suitable way. I've added link:
http://conemu.github.io/donate.html

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 3 Feb 2015 at 9:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Alipay requires business license. Don't know other Chinese services.

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 3 Feb 2015 at 4:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Information about paypal was updated:
http://conemu.github.io/donate.html

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 1 Mar 2015 at 11:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Amazon was added as an option:
https://conemu.github.io/donate.html#amazon

Original comment by ConEmu.Maximus5 on 15 Aug 2015 at 4:23