Suggestion: Focus on the Service. Do not include Tor

[DiagonalArg]

In case this project revives, note that there is such thing as an "ephemeral onion services" and that onionshare/onionize are using it.

If you use that with ricochet, you won't have to include tor, thereby keeping it from becoming obsolete so quickly. Then you can just focus on the service. Here is a description.

In case the revival of this project by blueprint-freespeech goes anywhere, I have made the same suggestion there.

[eleanor-em]

This is really neat, cheers!

[cypherbits]

The goal of including Tor with Ricochet is that people with no system-wide Tor, like Windows users can use Ricochet easily. Ephemeral onion services make easy for Ricochet to manage many identities but you need Tor to connect to Tor xD

[DiagonalArg]

And those Windows users, how are they then to update Tor when this software becomes so extremely obsolete? You're just making it easy for them to screw up.

[cypherbits]

And those Windows users, how are they then to update Tor when this software becomes so extremely obsolete? You're just making it easy for them to screw up.

Windows build of Ricochet has the separate tor.exe, users can just update/replace this files to get the new version. The Tor only version built for Windows can be downloaded on the official Tor distribution folder: https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/8.5.4/ For example: Tor Windows 32bits: https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/8.5.4/tor-win32-0.4.0.5.zip Tor Windows 64bits: https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/8.5.4/tor-win64-0.4.0.5.zip

Just extract and replace these files on the Ricochet folder and it works.

[DiagonalArg]

The goal of including Tor with Ricochet is that people with no system-wide Tor, like Windows users can use Ricochet easily.

Windows build of Ricochet has the separate tor.exe, users can just update/replace this files to get the new version.

Wait, so you're saying I'm right then? That because Windows users can use Ricochet easily - even if they should be replacing tor (but maybe don't) - the effect is that your including tor is making it easy for them to screw up?

Unless you are going to keep ricochet updated, so that we have a new version every time tor is updated, then you should not be pretending to Windows users that they do not need to install tor.

[odiferousmint]

I made my response here: https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/ricochet-refresh/issues/2#issuecomment-536354517

[DiagonalArg]

I also made my response there: https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/ricochet-refresh/issues/2#issuecomment-538340549