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Mod Manager For Rimworld game
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It's not 100% clear this is the right place to get RimPy for first time users. #127

Open origintopleft opened 1 year ago

origintopleft commented 1 year ago

My girlfriend's been getting me into Rimworld, and she's been trying to get me to install RimPy to use some of the performance related tools (something about converting texture files to DDS and an automatic sorter that sounds kinda like LOOT from Bethesda modding?). My first instinct is to Google for the tool, and I got this repository as the first result...but it's just a template-generated README and a PNG file. I thought I got a bogus Google result. Luckily, the Steam Workshop mod was also on the first page and linked back here, but to the releases page where the downloads are actually available.

I'm assigning the actual blame on this to GitHub not being 100% meant for proprietary software to host downloads, and therefore its UX isn't 100% up to the task (I don't personally think to check if there's releases if I don't see code in the repo). A common practice, however, is to extend the generated README.md to point to the right places, just so folks landing here from search engines know they haven't misclicked.

(I would have made a pull request and fixed the README myself, but you don't seem to keep your assets for your Steam workshop description in this repo and I would have been too perfectionist about trying to make a "Workshop Link" header that matched)

Lucas559-noob commented 1 year ago

Well, I think GitHub is the best place for direct downloads(without having the chance to download an ad) and help(Issues) or improvements(fork and PR)

King-of-Blades commented 1 year ago

I mean, your failure to notice the releases section highlighted in bright colors just slightly off to the right of center isn't really his issue, not to be rude. For someone who seems familiar with github, I fail to understand why you wouldn't notice that there are releases present.

origintopleft commented 1 year ago

I mean, your failure to notice the releases section highlighted in bright colors just slightly off to the right of center isn't really his issue, not to be rude. For someone who seems familiar with github, I fail to understand why you wouldn't notice that there are releases present.

It's not "duh bhuh wher r download" so much, it was merely the empty README.md file combined with "rimpy-custom" which made me unsure whether I had the upstream RimPy repository in front of me or a third party fork.

Also, I'd like to apologize if I'm coming off rude or impolite or anything, Feb 20th was roughly when I caught the rona and it seems to have caused some kind of permanent emotional instability and trouble forming logical sentences that I'm still struggling with even now. Hopefully, I'm managing it a little better now, but getting it looked at by a neurologist or something is on my to-do list.

If this is still considered a waste of everyone's time, I have no problem with closing this issue.

char-cole commented 1 year ago

not everyone is familiar with github though - a simple readme would be a valuable accessibility feature, if that helps. it really isn't super clear that this is the correct repo.

almera-vs commented 1 year ago

not everyone is familiar with github though - a simple readme would be a valuable accessibility feature, if that helps. it really isn't super clear that this is the correct repo.

You're on github. You can contribute whenever you want

LionelColaso commented 1 year ago

yeah its funny this is a closed source project and how do u expect people to contribute

KurtSlyCamilleri commented 1 year ago

Yeah, just got lead here also, no clue what to do next and how to download now, I'm just not gonna use it shrug

almera-vs commented 1 year ago

Here's a quick guide since people new to github have problems:

If you're on Windows:

  1. Download last windows release here
  2. unzip it
  3. launch the exe file

If you're on Linux:

  1. Download last linux release here
  2. unpack the file (using archive app or by command tar -xvf RimPy_Linux.tar.gz)
  3. go to terminal and type sudo ./RimPy.sh while inside the unpacked directory
Tigeress4 commented 11 months ago

Here's a quick guide since people new to github have problems:

If you're on Windows:

  1. Download last windows release here
  2. unzip it
  3. launch the exe file

If you're on Linux:

  1. Download last linux release here
  2. unpack the file (using archive app or by command tar -xvf RimPy_Linux.tar.gz)
  3. go to terminal and type sudo ./RimPy.sh while inside the unpacked directory

Hello and thank you for this, I just made an account, 1st time here. So I apologize if I'm somehow in the wrong asking, but I found this from steam workshop and recommendations on Reddit, but I play I steam deck. I don't understand how to get this loaded on my deck and if maybe its not needed for the deck? My kid was into Rimworld but saved borked so I started doing research and playing a bit to help (got into it myself I'm normally a Sims' player) realized most people said it was Prepare carefully was most likely to blame so now trying to go over this 12 steam pages of subscribed mods to "fix the list" and I admittedly jumped out of the frying pan and into the pasta water...

I am used to moding Sims games, but I am NOT a coder please explain things to me in a cross between Senior citizen, a 6-8 (1st or 2nd grade) and kitten or puppy (which ever your fav is I promise I have permission to be on the chair/ keyboard :)! )

Lucas559-noob commented 11 months ago

Steam deck is like Linux or how? Maybe isn't supported

Em ter, 1 de ago de 2023 13:25, Tigeress4 @.***> escreveu:

Here's a quick guide since people new to github have problems:

If you're on Windows:

  1. Download last windows release here https://github.com/rimpy-custom/RimPy/releases/download/1.2.6.28/RimPy_Windows.zip
  2. unzip it
  3. launch the exe file

If you're on Linux:

  1. Download last linux release here https://github.com/rimpy-custom/RimPy/releases/download/1.2.6.29/RimPy_Linux.tar.gz
  2. unpack the file (using archive app or by command tar -xvf RimPy_Linux.tar.gz)
  3. go to terminal and type sudo ./RimPy.sh while inside the unpacked directory

Hello and thank you for this, I just made an account, 1st time here. So I apologize if I'm somehow in the wrong asking, but I found this from steam workshop and recommendations on Reddit, but I play I steam deck. I don't understand how to get this loaded on my deck and if maybe its not needed for the deck? My kid was into Rimworld but saved borked so I started doing research and playing a bit to help (got into it myself I'm normally a Sims' player) realized most people said it was Prepare carefully was most likely to blame so now trying to go over this 12 steam pages of subscribed mods to "fix the list" and I admittedly jumped out of the frying pan and into the pasta water...

I am used to moding Sims games, but I am NOT a coder please explain things to me in a cross between Senior citizen, a 6-8 (1st or 2nd grade) and kitten or puppy (which ever your fav is I promise I have permission to be on the chair/ keyboard :)! )

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King-of-Blades commented 11 months ago

Steam deck is like Linux or how? Maybe isn't supported

Steam deck is Linux. It's most definitely supported, but you have to set it up through the desktop mode and it's not easy to do for someone to whom Linux is completely alien.

I can't write up a tutorial right now, as I'm at work, but if you just look up how to get into desktop mode on the steam deck if you're not familiar, and then google rimpy steam deck or rimpy Linux you'll find plenty of instructions.

Tigeress4 commented 10 months ago

Steam deck is like Linux or how? Maybe isn't supported

Steam deck is Linux. It's most definitely supported, but you have to set it up through the desktop mode and it's not easy to do for someone to whom Linux is completely alien.

I can't write up a tutorial right now, as I'm at work, but if you just look up how to get into desktop mode on the steam deck if you're not familiar, and then google rimpy steam deck or rimpy Linux you'll find plenty of instructions.

Thank you, being dyslexic it makes it an extra layer of challenge for me. I can get into desktop mode easily enough now. Still not sure enough to do all the extra steps. I forgot to send messages last week. Thank you both so much, slowly teaching myself new skills. :) Here's to continuing to learn at any age. Thank you again for pointing me in the right direction

sparr commented 10 months ago

@King-of-Blades On certain screen shapes/sizes, Releases are hidden at the bottom of the page, not up high in the sidebar.

King-of-Blades commented 10 months ago

@King-of-Blades On certain screen shapes/sizes, Releases are hidden at the bottom of the page, not up high in the sidebar.

Well, if you're here to actually download rimpy, you're going to be currently using a PC, not a phone or some other device.

I would be willing to be a solid sum of money that the Venn diagram of people who are tech savvy enough to choose to use unorthodox aspect ratios and abnormal screen sizes on their home PC and people who are tech unsavvy enough to have no idea how to download something from GitHub is probably two separate circles.

nukeop commented 8 months ago

It's pretty crazy to download a 216MB program and just run it without seeing the source, especially for something as simple as a mod manager. Hosting this on Github without the source is a HUGE red flag. I don't blame people not trusting this, they have no reason to.

nukeop commented 8 months ago

Yeah, upon further inspection, it's a ton of random libraries, and a 102MB (!) binary, with no way to tell what it's going to do to my computer. Nope.