riparias / pov-ias-plants-occurrences

DwC mapping of the alien plants occurrences of the Provincial Center of Environmental Research (PCM) in East Flanders, Belgium
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WFS province East-Flanders, layer 'Invasieve_uitheemse_soorten' will not be updated anymore #106

Open filipmahieu opened 4 months ago

filipmahieu commented 4 months ago

We don't update the data the layer 'Invasieve_uitheemse_soorten' in https://geodiensten.oost-vlaanderen.be/arcgis/services/MIL/Waarnemingen_Public/MapServer/WFSServer?request=GetCapabilities&service=WFS anymore. IAS'es are now put directly in waarnemingen.be . We will remove this layer from the WFS, but want the data still to be available in GBIF / Riparias. Can we hence stop without concern the layer, while the data will still be retrieved in GBIF / Riparias?

We still add data to the layer 'Vissen_en_crustacea'. Hopefully before summer we will publish the data in another WFS, as mentioned in https://github.com/riparias/pov-ias-plants-occurrences/issues/98 coming from another datasystem (gisib), but having (in other tables) the same effective content. In fact, in my opinion, the old data must then not be uploaded anymore, the new webservice-layer will replace it all.

damianooldoni commented 4 months ago

Hi @filipmahieu 👋 Thanks for letting us know about this. I will transfer this issue to https://github.com/riparias/pov-ias-plants-occurrences as I think it concerns that specific dataset. I will give you an answer after the transfer.

damianooldoni commented 4 months ago

We don't update the data the layer 'Invasieve_uitheemse_soorten' in https://geodiensten.oost-vlaanderen.be/arcgis/services/MIL/Waarnemingen_Public/MapServer/WFSServer?request=GetCapabilities&service=WFS anymore.

Ok, thanks. I noticed indeed something strange as my automatic weekly fetch GitHub action was not harvesting any data.

IAS'es are now put directly in waarnemingen.be . We will remove this layer from the WFS, but want the data still to be available in GBIF / Riparias. Can we hence stop without concern the layer, while the data will still be retrieved in GBIF / Riparias?

Yes, of course. The GBIF dataset we published and weekly updated will be still online and so those data will be available on GBIF "forever" 😄 We will just disable the weekly auto publication on our side.

We still add data to the layer 'Vissen_en_crustacea'. Hopefully before summer we will publish the data in another WFS, as mentioned in https://github.com/riparias/pov-ias-plants-occurrences/issues/98 coming from another datasystem (gisib), but having (in other tables) the same effective content. In fact, in my opinion, the old data must then not be uploaded anymore, the new webservice-layer will replace it all.

Great, we will then continue to update that dataset as usual. The new datasystem with the new WFS discussed in #98 will be only relevant for the fishes and crayfishes layer then? This is the only point it's not totally clear to me. Thanks. We will have to take care that the value ObservationIdentifier used as unique identifier will not change for the old observations when you pass to the new system. Otherwise GBIF (and our early alert system) will consider them as new observations.

filipmahieu commented 4 months ago

We still add data to the layer 'Vissen_en_crustacea'. Hopefully before summer we will publish the data in another WFS, as mentioned in #98 coming from another datasystem (gisib), but having (in other tables) the same effective content. In fact, in my opinion, the old data must then not be uploaded anymore, the new webservice-layer will replace it all.

Great, we will then continue to update that dataset as usual. The new datasystem with the new WFS discussed in #98 will be only relevant for the fishes and crayfishes layer then? This is the only point it's not totally clear to me. Thanks. We will have to take care that the value ObservationIdentifier used as unique identifier will not change for the old observations when you pass to the new system. Otherwise GBIF (and our early alert system) will consider them as new observations.

There will be more kinds of plants and animals (e.g. waterplants, terrestric plants, animals captured by wildlife cameras). ObservationIdentifier will change however. I could give once a mapping from 'old to new identifier' howerver.

damianooldoni commented 4 months ago

Such a mapping from 'old to new identifier' would be great, thanks.

It's great to hear that Province East Flanders will sensibly increase the number of published species on GBIF.

filipmahieu commented 4 months ago

I don't know yet how many layers there will be. We'll have to figure out. Plants from verges will also come with x and y-coördinates, and wkt-footprint as discussed in appendix. Re Export naar GBIF - lijnen.pdf The things we publish on waarnemingen.be won't be noted in our gisib / WFS. So there won't be doubles. You noted 'Ok, thanks. I noticed indeed something strange as my automatic weekly fetch GitHub action was not harvesting any data.' There was an issue with our WFS. Now he publishes again data. It's not normal if there's no data, please give me sign then.

damianooldoni commented 4 months ago

Thansk @filipmahieu! Everything clear now! 👍