Logging stops for non-contacts

[MarcKete]

Describe the bug The history logging for people that are in your address book, but never chatted with before (non contacts), stops after 10 to 15 minutes. Meaning that you have to click on your whatsapp on your phone (as it doesn't work via the web based version neither) on that specific contact every 10 to 15 min of you like to see activity. This is a really annoying limitation) a it's not always possible to keep track of that.

To Reproduce

1. Open whatsappweb + whatsapp on phonr
2. click on non-contact on your phone, you will see the same result on the web version
3. wait for more then 10 to 15 min
4. select the same non contact as before and look at the date stamp of that person on the webbased version
5. Click on the non-contact on your phone version
6. if that person was online between that time period you will see a different timestamp - automatically the webbased version get updated after opening WA on you phone

Expected behavior The logging/Monitoring works similar to the one of contact (people you have chatted with before)

Screenshots N/A

Desktop (please complete the following information):

• Win10
• Chrome
• Version 95.0.4638.69 (Official build) (64-bits)

Smartphone (please complete the following information):

• Samsung S8
• Android 9
• Stock

Additional context Add any other context about the problem here.

[rizwansoaib]

I tried the good idea (airplane mode) of malaguer (#128 (comment)) once, but no luck. I don't know whether this for others work, or maybe it's just me.

Hi @MarcKete

I've tried the new version today. And in my case (using Windows platform on desktop and Android WhatsApp on the phone) I can confirm that it still works fine for me, even with non contacts.

If you've managed to get a non-contact chat to appear on WhatsApp Recent Chats tab, I'd suggest you to keep that chat there for at least 1 or 2 days at least. I've verified that @rizwansoaib WA-Monitor new version is able to detect non contacts once you start Online Scan Monitor and they're logged correctly.

The ability to see 'online status' is not immediate. In my case, having the recent chat and opening a couple of times for 1 day was time enough to make WhatsApp servers "think" that there is a connection alive between the non-contact and my number and allow me to check the online status.

@malaguer please can you also verify notify notification added in desktop also it's working fine or not subscribe url to any other devices and you are getting notification via Web push.

[MarcKete]

I agree with you for position of online scan unfortunately it's cross platform ( linux , windows, Mac) all and for different devices different screen it's shows different in my laptop linux 14 inch screen it's same height as profile scan but when I switched with windows it's not show as in linux. in next update I will try to fix UI also .

It does not scan complete address mean you will see but not able to track until you open any chat window.

If you need to track anyone you need to open chat window atleast once.

I will add this feature also track specific contact also please create one new issue for both UI and specific contact selection.

What matters the UI, really it's a tiny esthetic issue, I'll created an issue for both. Thanks for the follow-up an swift replies guys. Just for clarification, when you mention open chat window at least once:

• do you mean just opening the WAMonitor (Windows version) in the WhatsappWeb interface, or
• go to the non contact in the WAmonitor, don't type anything but leave it open, or
• effectively send the non contact on android in airplane mode a "." and delete what you've sent (in this case the "." for all participants in the call, but don't delete the chat?

[MarcKete]

Just for clarification, when you mention open chat window at least once:

• do you mean just opening the WAMonitor (Windows version) in the WhatsappWeb interface, or
• go to the non contact in the WAmonitor, don't type anything but leave it open, or
• effectively send the non contact on android in airplane mode a "." and delete what you've sent (in this case the "." for all participants in the call, but don't delete the chat?

Hi @MarcKete

I can talk only about desktop version of WA-Mon. I've not tried the browser extension yet.

To be able to track a contact (or non-contact) it is needed to have that chat opened and alive. That means click on the name of the contact so that Web Whatsapp show your conversation (even if it's empty or there's no content, that's not important).

And to keep the tracking process alive, it is necessary to click from time to time on Web WhatsApp window (in my case I do it using a 2 seconds delay between contacts, so that WA detects that your connection is active. That'd be all.

And in order to have this chat open, alive and refresh it on regular base, first you need to send that person any text (in airplane mode) and then delete it for all in that conversation before turning of the airplane mode without deleting the chat itself, is that what you exactly mean @malaguer ?

[Erceccia]

I'm not keen to send a stranger a random message with my number, if something goes wrong he'll know I'm tracking or at least arose suspicion, I was thinking you just needed to open the empty chat tab with the non-contact

[MarcKete]

Ok, now it's completely clear or me. Thanks for the clarification. And indeed, as @Erceccia mentions it's a bit annoying to sent that non contact a msg in airplane mode.. but I guess there's no other workaround for this for the moment... and at least it's better then nothing at all

[Erceccia]

BTW, every once in a while there's a pop-up in the whatsapp web page (that I'm leaving constantly open) with the noncontact chat tab open that says "whatsapp web says: permission denied", could it be a signal the contact is online and whatsapp refuses to show and keeps hidden hence the new security standards? Maybe is an interaction between the targeted number and the server? Just wondering

[Erceccia]

JUST FOUND A PREMIUM APP THAT ACTUALLY WORKS!

An app I found on the play store and it's just brand new, since was launched today, it's called "NOTIFLY" and the icon is all red with a yellow and white shield inside, let me know if you have tried it... I'm tracking my number and seems precise.

Its code could give also some hint on how to get around newer whatsapp privacy settings!

[alx9981]

JUST FOUND A PREMIUM APP THAT ACTUALLY WORKS!

An app I found on the play store and it's just brand new, since was launched today, it's called "NOTIFLY" and the icon is all red with a yellow and white shield inside, let me know if you have tried it... I'm tracking my number and seems precise.

Its code could give also some hint on how to get around newer whatsapp privacy settings!

Did you try it? pricing?

[Erceccia]

I'm on trial version, pricing is leveled to other apps of its kind, If u download it, try to track your number, and let me know if it works well also with you

[MarcKete]

And to keep the tracking process alive, it is necessary to click from time to time on Web WhatsApp window (in my case I do it using a 2 seconds delay between contacts, so that WA detects that your connection is active

@malaguer : do you use a special script / automation for this? It would be of great help if the source could be shared ;-) thanks

[bluej4ker]

Although I tried airplane mode, I cannot follow a person in my contact list if I have not sent a message before. Does anyone have a solution for this issue?

[CyanSeas]

Hello, has anyone found the working solution for the Non-contact? It seems the airplane method was not working for me, I followed the steps perfectly, and I really hope anyone who has been able to track the non-contact share their method with me (Whether its extension or exe). Thank you in advanced

Also, may I know how does the tracking apps outside recognize us? For example, when there's a free trial but it is only free for the first time no matter if you're using a new account. Like planting seeds in-network or somehow...? can someone explain?

[ocen]

JUST FOUND A PREMIUM APP THAT ACTUALLY WORKS!

An app I found on the play store and it's just brand new, since was launched today, it's called "NOTIFLY" and the icon is all red with a yellow and white shield inside, let me know if you have tried it... I'm tracking my number and seems precise.

Its code could give also some hint on how to get around newer whatsapp privacy settings!

is there a app like "Notifly", trial version or try&buy system? because Notifly has a 1 day trial and only 1 number can trackable. is there any alternative for non-contact and trial about 2-3 days? any app name or tryed your self about working almost %99 like whatsapp-monitor does before whatsapp changed system? Regards

[sekooo]

is there a app like "Notifly", trial version or try&buy system? because Notifly has a 1 day trial and only 1 number can trackable. is there any alternative for non-contact and trial about 2-3 days? any app name or tryed your self about working almost %99 like whatsapp-monitor does before whatsapp changed system? Regards

Hello, I try WA Online app on play store. You can show ads video and use try free. Link is bellow.. This app working very well.. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.queen.lastseen

[AnderElorrieta]

@malaguer : do you use a special script / automation for this? It would be of great help if the source could be shared ;-) thanks

It is a very simple script for Windows. To make it work you need to meet this requirements:

• OS: Windows
• Use whatsapp-monitor Desktop version always on the foreground and MAXIMIZE the window.
• Download NirCmd Command Line Utility for Windows.
• Copy the code below and save it with the name you prefer (i.e. waKeepalive.cmd) being the extension of the file .cmd or .bat (not .txt).
• Save the batch file in the same folder where you saved NirCmd.exe .
• Edit the 3rd line and modify the variable MAX_CONTACTS with the number of contacts of your own WhatsApp Recent Chats Tab (in my case it is 10 contacts).

And that'd be all:

1. Launch WA-Mon.
2. Launch Online Monitor and press ESC to minimize it.
3. Mazimize WA-Mon window.
4. Launch the batch script.

As you'll need whatsapp web to be always on the foreground I'd recommend to use a Virtual Machine so that you can leave that process on the background with no interruptions.

PS: I also recommend to restart WhatsApp Web at least once every day. Sometimes it loses the connection.

@echo off
setlocal
set "MAX_CONTACTS=10"
set "str=down"

title WA-Keep-Alive
nircmd win min title WA-Keep-Alive

call:mouseToBar

set "i=0"
:Loop
    if "%i%"=="%MAX_CONTACTS%" (
        set "i=1"
        if /i "%str%"=="down" (
            set "str=up"
        ) else (
            set "str=down"
            call:mouseToBar
            nircmd sendkeypress down
        )
    )

    nircmd sendkeypress %str%
    nircmdc wait 2000

    set /a i = i + 1
    goto Loop

:mouseToBar
    nircmd setcursor 310 140
    nircmd sendmouse left click
    nircmdc wait 100
    goto:EOF

Can you confirm it is still working? Thanks

[lllnrd]

is there a working method to track the connection of NON CONTACTS?

[SuhatAkbulak]

I'm ready to buy the code that works fine

[Erceccia]

Hello, I was here last February when the apps stopped. Now the trackers are down again and there's a huge risk and a whole market in danger. WhatsApp just released a new update that apparently striked all the trackers. I was using netwa (after the events of December 2021 and February 2022 written here). Netwa was working like a charm for all numbers unregarding their privacy settings. Now everything is off tracking even the ones who have all settings in public. Please help, there's a group of telegram with 4k users only for netwa, can't imagine the similar apps combined.

[Erceccia]

Recap of happenings:

Before Dec 2021 u could see at least online, or last seen (the latter for those w public privacy) directly in whatsapp.

But u could track everyone disregarding privacy with netwa or similar apps.

After the "online same as last seen" update of two months you could still track with "online or offline" notification for those who have online hidden, the other were totally unaffected and u could still track them precisely.

Now u can't see anything even with ones which have everything public.

This is the progression of events, it looks like whatsapp has made an under the radar update and kinda "isolated" his servers. Please help.