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NAOMI: 3P & 4P support #328

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 8 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. Load a Naomi or Naomi based game
2. Configure according ins service menu
3. Boot into game

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
I expect to be able to use the four controllers, but only the first three will 
respond. Also buttons get messed up (Player 2 mirror movements to Player 1).
Check video: http://youtu.be/SonAXaHgSCU

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?
0.5.8.2

Please provide any additional information below.
Win7x64 SP1, 4670K, GTX 750 Ti, 8Gb

* This is a repost of an old issue ticket raised on 11/03/15 that was later 
one-sidedly deleted.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by muramura...@hotmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 12:11

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
it depends on the game
if game uses JVS IO for controls - it will use controls configured at Arcade 
Joy3 and Joy4, for example RingOut 4x4, try it - it works

if its a Capcom games, wich uses weird Maple bus kit/converters (read - for DC 
gamepad) - for Player 3 and 4 used controls configured Dreamcast Joy2 and Joy3

so, you must configure gamepad for player 3 at DC JOY2, and gamepad for player 
4 at DC JOY3.
on the video as I see - you have gamepad 1 at DC joy 1, and gamepad 2 at DC joy 
2, this is wrong

anyway, our team thinks this is not bug or problem.

Original comment by 0vet...@gmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 3:19

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
And player 2 where?

It's 4-Players, and it's a Naomi game, so ticket title is correct. Do what you 
please but the truth is that it's broken.

I can do what you suggested and have no mirrored input at the expense of losing 
4-Player support but then what I get are messed up controls, did you check? 
it's also stated as a bug in the ticket. All 4 controllers share the same 
button configuration yet 2 players (3P and 4P) jump with Y button (bad) and one 
with A button (good) among other things.
Check video and do homework: http://youtu.be/z5URo6wjtu8

Valid

Original comment by muramura...@hotmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 4:25

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
works fine here,
Player 1 - configured keys at Arcade Joy 1
Player 2 - configured keys at Arcade Joy 2
Player 3 - configured keys at Dreamcast Joy 2
Player 4 - configured keys at Dreamcast Joy 3

and its not "Naomi 4 players", its Capcom's crap. only Capcom uses such weird 
input setup, instead of proper JVS IO (2x daisy chained) as rest of Naomi games 
with 3-4 player support.

anyway, you was already told - our team thinks there is no problem, it works as 
expected and as was planned.
take it as is, or not use this emulator.

Original comment by 0vet...@gmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 5:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
It doesn't work like that here.

Player 3 at Dreamcast Joy 3 (works)
Player 4 unresponsive in Joy 4 or anywhere else (in Joy 3 it identifies as 
Player 3)

Also how do you explain that I had to switch the PUSH 2 and 3 buttons in Arcade 
Joy 2 when in 4 Player mode? If not it won't behave as Player 1 for example.

Something odd is happening. I won't make a video now since I'm tired, but 
already you know how I got the thing configured up.

Original comment by muramura...@hotmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 7:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
"Player 4 unresponsive in Joy 4 or anywhere else"
make sure in "Maple device manager" PORT C set to "Controller"

the best explanation - you have messy/wrong configuration files, delete 
padDemul.ini and configure controls from scratch, or even better delete all 
.ini files and do clean config.

also, if you use some "repack" of emulator (usually very wrong preconfigured)- 
dont use it, or at least report bugs to makers of such repacks, but not here.

Original comment by 0vet...@gmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 7:49

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
" make sure in "Maple device manager" PORT C set to "Controller" "
Just check my videos please, included the new one.

There isn't better explanation than a video showing in your face the control 
setup in the emulator. So that's what I did again. No messy configuration 
files, just things working the wrong way they do "in the emulator".

I have AHK scripts set up to change controller buttons automatically, so it's 
VERY EASY for me to debug, change player buttons, etc. And nothing you have 
said in relation to 4-Players is working so far. At least tell me where 
JOY_3START should go.

My demul build CRC is 6535C4AB, is it familiar to you?

Proof:
http://youtu.be/L3eQzjuxGQc

Original comment by DogwayTV on 29 Mar 2015 at 8:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
are you fucking blind ? I told you already 2 times - for player 3 you must 
configure DC Joy 2, NOT 3 !!
for player 4 - DC joy 3, NOT 4!!! like on your video
it works this way for me
it works for the rest of team
it works for other users
obviously problem just in you

Original comment by 0vet...@gmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 9:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
What cock did you suck man?
Put my video between his belly and your eyes.

if player 3 works that way for me, then it proves it doesn't for your method.
I FUCKING SAID, YOU FUCKING SAW MY SETUP, YOU FUCKING SAW MY SERVICE MENU.

ARE YOU FUCKING BLIIIIIIIND!

Proof or bug
suckerz...

Original comment by muramura...@hotmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 9:51

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I agree, its a proof, of a bug, which one and ONLY unlucky cocksucker have.

for the rest of people it works fine...

Original comment by 0vet...@gmail.com on 29 Mar 2015 at 10:11

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
You mean your team? Mickey, Pluto & company?

Here, in the real world it's bugged.
And even if it wasn't you don't make an emulator for accuracy, you make it for 
playability.
This crappy set up, even if it was Capcom's fault in origin should be addressed 
transparent to end user.

Besides, as I said buttons are switched.
Fix it or swallow, faggot.

Original comment by muramura...@hotmail.com on 30 Mar 2015 at 10:36

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
well, its bugged only in YOUR'S personal world, in real one it's OK
also I/we make this emulator not for accuracy, not for playability, or whatever 
you are thinking, but for fun. moreover, no one will do something just because 
you want something, its not commercial project, you didnt pay for it, so take 
it as is or not use, silently.

as for insulting me - I'd wish you come to the country I'm living, here is war 
now, real war, so faggots like you, which tends to insulting people, have high 
chances to swallow some dose of plumbum here hehe.

Original comment by 0vet...@gmail.com on 30 Mar 2015 at 1:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Your reasoning was lost from the moment you decided to tag a valid ticket as 
invalid.

won't fix != invalid

I imagine yourself, bullets flying over your head while debugging code for 
ancient games, yes debug, debug not for accuracy but for the laughs, ain't that 
contradictory? such a troll

Do what you please, but the ticket is living.

Original comment by muramura...@hotmail.com on 30 Mar 2015 at 2:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
no one can reproduce issue you reported = invalid, not 'wont fix'
im tend to think your PERSONAL windows system is buggy and/or full of various 
shitty software, which wont let emulator to works as was planned.

anyway, here is not you decide what and how must be named.
please build your own emulator, so then some morons will tell you what to do, 
how much to swallow, and how to proper name things.
is it clear ?

Original comment by 0vet...@gmail.com on 30 Mar 2015 at 2:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
The arrogant of you clearly haven't even tested, why do I know? Because you 
even didn't bother to check my videos and know that I already had Port C set as 
Controller.

You already made it clear that my PC must be utter crap, my OS is borked, full 
of virus and bloatware, running a repack version of Demul, my padDemul.ini is 
also broken and apparently I am a teenager rat kid born in the states. 
*Applause*

That's how you get morons. I have several personal projects and haven't had 
issues with anyone.

Original comment by muramura...@hotmail.com on 30 Mar 2015 at 3:54