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Update the robots.ros.org site to list all the ROS-Industrial supported robots #51

Closed ipa-nhg closed 6 years ago

ipa-nhg commented 6 years ago

There is already a ROS-Industrial tag but the only robot linked is the abb manipulator http://robots.ros.org/tags/#ros-industrial

gavanderhoorn commented 6 years ago

This is a good idea, but we have to decide whether we actually want to do that, or whether we want to list 'ROS-Industrial' as a supported robot, and then link to wiki.ros.org/industrial.

The old robots page on the wiki had this fi.

Listing individual robots would be nice, but it's also a lot of work: most of our drivers are manipulator agnostic, which leads to the question which robots should be listed then on robots.ros.org: all models, or a generic 'brand'?

To put it into nrs: the Fanuc driver supports all Fanuc robots. Limiting it just to the variants supported by the released robot support pkgs would mean adding 19 supported robots.

gavanderhoorn commented 6 years ago

@ipa-nhg: thoughts?

ipa-nhg commented 6 years ago

I see your point, too much effort and difficult to maintain.

What about a site for each robot driver(not each model)? Similar to abb http://robots.ros.org/abb-manipulators/ , where in resources we link the ROS-wiki of the driver (for fanuc: wiki.ros.org/fanuc) and add a link to the wiki.ros.org/industrial in the general description. what do you think?

In case we need to list all the supported robot models, I suggest wait until we split the drivers into separate repos. The Readme or the ROS site of the driver should contain a list or a table of tested and supported robots. Personally I prefer have the information only once and link it.

gavanderhoorn commented 6 years ago

My suggestion would be to find a middle ground: list all supported brands of industrial robots, but not the individual variants. That is probably also how people/users will be searching for 'robot support'.

That would be what we had on the old wiki.ros.org/Robots page (one entry per support mfg) and would not result in a lot of work. Somehow the entries we had on the Robots page did not survive the migration to the new site.

We had some good logos for each of the entries on the old Robots page, perhaps the new repository (ros-infrastructure/robots.ros.org) still/already contains those.

Old listings included (at least):

The old page can be found here: wiki/Robots/Backup. The macros no longer work, but it's still informative. Images were added in ros-infrastructure/roswiki#136, and everything was removed in ros-infrastructure/roswiki#228.

@ipa-nhg: is this something you could take care of?

gavanderhoorn commented 6 years ago

Btw: tbh I'm not too thrilled by the design of the robots.ros.org page. Lots of blacks and the fonts are way too big.

If any of the RIC managers has some resources available, perhaps spending a few hours helping upgrade / streamline the design a bit would be well-spent?

ipa-nhg commented 6 years ago

Yes! I can do that, update the wiki.ros.org/Robots site to list the supported brands.

gavanderhoorn commented 6 years ago

@ipa-nhg: have you had a chance to look into this?

This might be a good task for WRID (acronym I just made up for World ROS-I Day).

ipa-nhg commented 6 years ago

unfortunately I didn't have time. :confused:

Thanks for the proposal, I think also that this is a good task for the WRID. I would like also to check the online material that we have about supported hardware and status of the software and unify the documentation.

Hardware support docu:

Software status:

gavanderhoorn commented 6 years ago

Could I ask you to please open a new issue for the other points you raise? Let's not turn this into a forum thread.


Edit:

also we can investigate how we can filter the repositories.ros.org site to list only ROS-Industrial packages

that's not possible. Or at least, not without editing the javascript behind that page.

ipa-nhg commented 6 years ago

PRs open for fanuc, UR and Motoman:

https://github.com/ros-infrastructure/robots.ros.org/pull/153 https://github.com/ros-infrastructure/robots.ros.org/pull/152 https://github.com/ros-infrastructure/robots.ros.org/pull/151

ipa-nhg commented 6 years ago

Merged https://robots.ros.org/tags/#ros-industrial