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Actuator inertia #78

Open nielsvd opened 8 years ago

nielsvd commented 8 years ago

Actuators used in industrial robotic arms typically have a reasonably low inertia, which can be included in the link inertia. However, the actuator inertia has another important effect on the rigid body dynamics; namely, due to the gear ratio between the motor and the joint, the actuator inertia significantly contributes to the required torque to achieve a certain requested motion.

At the moment it seems that the URDF specification does not support the specification of such contribution of motor inertia. I think it could be well-placed in the transmission tag.

Some relevant questions for the discussion:

Thanks in advance for your input.

jacquelinekay commented 8 years ago

Correct, neither the transmission element nor the actuator element have inertia in URDF.

If we were to introduce actuator inertia, it would probably be as a sub-element of the actuator element, which is a sub-element of transmission.

I'm not a mechanical engineer, so can you provide a specific example, perhaps a formula for a motor model, where actuator inertia is needed and cannot be faked by some combinator of the joint dynamics and limit sub-elements?

nielsvd commented 8 years ago

Sorry for my late reply. Please find an example below (it's included as an image to display the maths nicely). To my knowledge the actuator inertia in the example below cannot be faked using existing elements in URDF.

two-link svg

scpeters commented 8 years ago

This is excellent documentation! Thanks for this example. Here's my comments:

nielsvd commented 8 years ago

In response to the comments by @scpeters:

neemoh commented 4 years ago

Any update on this? I am surprised that motor inertia is not included in URDF. It is not something one can ignore when dealing with dynamics. Just to give you an example, the motor inertias (considering the gear ratio) of the first 2 joints of a 5kg payload robot can contribute 30-40% to the diagonals of the mass matrix.

emekBaris commented 3 years ago

Is there any update? I tried to use the mimic tag of the Joint class to model this, but it only affects the kinematics but not the dynamics.