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This study describes an interobserver agreement study about image interpretation of olecranon fractures
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How to interpretate outputs? #16

Closed apbonilauri closed 12 years ago

apbonilauri commented 12 years ago

Ricardo, I don't know how to interpretate the output, like, bhapkar, finn.

building documentation for the input-output components of each common stats test. this will help them with interpretation. we will likely write these input-output pages with knitr since it will allow us to embed tables, graphics, and have the basic formatting tools (headings, bullets, etc), and then export it to html (stored within the github project) so that clinical researchers can just click there and get the latest information. we will obviously have to test and see how that works

input - add template for methods section output -- add annotated bibliography + standard section to go into the results section

rpietro commented 12 years ago

I added the explanation for Bhapkar http://goo.gl/jKPjy -- please check this out and then let me know if this format is OK. what i mean is: if we were to have this format for all tests, would you feel comfortable both using and interpreting them?

In practice, I think that we will have a number of incomplete input and output documentation, which we can augment over time, as needed. More than having a complete document for every test, i'd rather have something that will solve the immediate problem and then improve it over time

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:44 AM, apbonilauri < reply@reply.github.com

wrote:

Ricardo, I don't know how to interpretate the output, like, bhapkar, finn.

building documentation for the input-output components of each common stats test. this will help them with interpretation. we will likely write these input-output pages with knitr since it will allow us to embed tables, graphics, and have the basic formatting tools (headings, bullets, etc), and then export it to html (stored within the github project) so that clinical researchers can just click there and get the latest information. we will obviously have to test and see how that works

input - add template for methods section output -- add annotated bibliography + standard section to go into the results section


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apbonilauri commented 12 years ago

Yes, it was easy to understand.

Just one question, we ran some tests, like agreement, finn, bhapkar, icc and kappam, right? Will we use all of them in the results section of the manuscript?

rpietro commented 12 years ago

i would use all of them since it will add validity. could you please send me the full list of functions you would like to have a toolbox for?

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:58 PM, apbonilauri < reply@reply.github.com

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Yes, it was easy to understand.

Just one question, we ran some tests, like agreement, finn, bhapkar, icc and kappam, right? Will we use all of them in the results section of the manuscript?


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apbonilauri commented 12 years ago

agree(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, tolerance=0) finn(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, 6, model="twoway") icc(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, model="twoway", type="agreement") kappam.fleiss(olecranon_spday1vsspday30)

rpietro commented 12 years ago

just to make sure, are these the ones where you need help with interpretation?

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:40 PM, apbonilauri < reply@reply.github.com

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agree(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, tolerance=0) finn(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, 6, model="twoway") icc(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, model="twoway", type="agreement") kappam.fleiss(olecranon_spday1vsspday30)


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apbonilauri commented 12 years ago

Sorry.

finn(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, 6, model="twoway") icc(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, model="twoway", type="agreement")

apbonilauri commented 12 years ago

Ricardo, did you have a chance to work on this? Thanks.

rpietro commented 12 years ago

I will work on this, but i would proceed with the whole paper, this thing is just a final detail

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, apbonilauri < reply@reply.github.com

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Sorry.

finn(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, 6, model="twoway") icc(olecranon_spday1vsspday30, model="twoway", type="agreement")


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apbonilauri commented 12 years ago

Ricardo, are there referencial values for Bhapkar Coefficient? I could not find them in the toolbox http://goo.gl/jKPjy So, I don't know how to interpretate the results values.

rpietro commented 12 years ago

please check the document i sent, there is a p value there

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM, apbonilauri < reply@reply.github.com

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Ricardo, are there referencial values for Bhapkar Coefficient? I could not find them in the toolbox http://goo.gl/jKPjy So, I don't know how to interpretate the results values.


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apbonilauri commented 12 years ago

Oh, ok, really sorry.