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add "why mini? why switch from micro on MRE?" to https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Hardware FAQ #134

Closed rusefillc closed 3 years ago

rusefillc commented 3 years ago

Anthony (Motorhead1991) 9:44 PM Any reason we're still using microUSB and not type c? 9:45 Just curiosity

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:46 PM Cost basically 9:46 Usb c options were limited and expensive 9:46 Mini USB has proven to be a good ballance between durability and cost

Zach Hoobler 9:46 PM Jlc now has usbc, so might be a consideration to switch?

Anthony (Motorhead1991) 9:46 PM Makes sense. Micro is pretty ubiquitous

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:47 PM I believe the usb c was harder to implement tok 9:47 *too

Andrey 9:47 PM @Zach Hoobler please provide PN of vertical JLC with data lines

Matthew Kennedy 9:47 PM C is easy to implement, it's just expensive connector

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:47 PM Thought it resulted in much smaller connections to solder?

Anthony (Motorhead1991) 9:48 PM So in 10 years when the price drops....

Matthew Kennedy 9:48 PM I think there exists some connector that omits the superspeed pairs so it can have wider pitch

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:48 PM And probably only surface mount

Zach Hoobler 9:49 PM NVM jlc only has horizontal right now :(

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:50 PM MiniUSB is pretty common on automotive stuff though tbh. My moats stuff is all miniUSB, the Woolwich racing stuff is, quite a few other things iirc

Andrey 9:50 PM thank you @Zach Hoobler 9:51 @Anthony (Motorhead1991) we use mini USB because our favorite prototyping shop solders it cheaply and more importantly easily for us :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: 1

9:51 it's less about price is more about having one less thing to worry about

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:52 PM That and people broke both the surface mount and through hole microusb

Anthony (Motorhead1991) 9:52 PM Everything but the Moates Ostrich is mini USB 9:52 It uses a printer cable :grin:

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:52 PM Ostrich is usb a like proteus 9:53 Proper chokers for max reliability. Never seen one of those break.

Anthony (Motorhead1991) 9:53 PM Yup. Those cables are a bit harder to find at local shops though IME 9:53 Hondata uses them too

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:54 PM Sadly true for both miniUSB aswell now. I have taken to keeping some in stock and sending them out if anyone asks for one 9:54 Ugreen on aliepress have done some good ones for me

Anthony (Motorhead1991) 9:54 PM I haven't looked in a while... I think WorstBuy still stocks them :thinking_face:

Simon - Orchardperformance 9:55 PM About $5 iirc

Andrey 10:02 PM any volunteers to add "why mini? why swtich from micro on MRE?" to https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Hardware FAQ? (edited)

Simon - Orchardperformance 10:04 PM Create a ticket and I will pick it up in the near future.

Andrey 10:04 PM @Anthony (Motorhead1991)? New

Simon - Orchardperformance 10:05 PM

duhafnusa4 commented 3 years ago

Q and A added to https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Hardware

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