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"easy_install pip" should not be necessary, as the version of Python installed
by Homebrew comes with pip. Running 'easy_install pip' will install pip for the
system Python, which is not what these build instructions are for.
I realize that there is a formatting error in the instructions -- the step
after installing Homebrew should be to run the following three commands:
brew tap homebrew/science
brew update
brew install python scons sundials
But these are not displayed with the correct formatting. Did you run these
commands? Does running these before trying to install Cantera fix the problems?
What error do you get trying to install the Cantera for Python 3? It should
install automatically if you have the necessary prerequisites installed
(python3 and the python3 versions of Numpy and Cython).
Original comment by yarmond
on 25 Feb 2015 at 7:47
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I was able to install everything correctly, but this required the stated
'easy_install pip'. Cantera did load from the python prompt when I stated
'import cantera' so I assume I was successful. I did change the path as
indicated so I believe I'm using homebrew's python, not the native one.
Apart from that, the cantera installation with python3 fails entirely.
Note: I usually don't use OSX, but was trouble-shooting for my students.
Original comment by ischo...@gmail.com
on 25 Feb 2015 at 7:57
I tested this again on a Mac with a clean copy of OS X 10.10.2 and found that
the following steps were sufficient to install Cantera for both Python 2 and
Python 3:
<install XCode from the app store>
sudo xcode-select --install
sudo xcodebuild -license
<install homebrew>
brew tap homebrew/science
brew update
brew install python scons sundials
pip install cython numpy
brew install python3
pip3 install numpy cython
brew install -v cantera
The only step not in the directions already is the extra step for the XCode
EULA that Apple added at some point (and which the Homebrew installer will
direct you to do anyway).
The Homebrew installer for Python specifically mentions that it installs pip,
so installing it with easy_install should not be required.
I did not find modifications to the path necessary, as apparently between 10.9
and 10.10 Apple changed the default path order to list /usr/local/bin ahead of
/usr/bin. You can confirm this by looking at the file /etc/paths. If your $PATH
does not have the directories in /etc/paths in that order, then you may need to
check your user-specific configuration files to see if they are modifying $PATH.
If you still find this set of steps to be inadequate, I would appreciate seeing
the output from running all of these (up to the failure) on a clean OS X
machine.
Original comment by yarmond
on 25 Feb 2015 at 10:40
Ray,
Thanks for looking into this. I was able to get a clean copy of OS X 10.10.2
myself, and can verify that the updated instructions are mostly ok. The only
issue I ran into was right before the last step (cantera), when I had to 'brew
link --overwrite scons'.
Retracing my previous installation steps, I believe that it wasn't sufficiently
clear to me that cantera on OSX *requires* python 2, even if you're just
intending to use python 3 (this explains the original error I reported, as I
had skipped the python 2 packages). This is different from the windows version
(that I had just tested before), where you need to choose which one. Linux is a
different matter, but I guess it has the same dependencies as OSX (for legacy
reasons, I'm still mostly on python 2 there, so I never realized this
dependency).
I'd still ask you to update the current instructions, as I can report that a
'field test' of having students just follow the online steps failed (and not
being used to homebrew, it even threw me for a loop despite having installed
cantera dozens of times on linux over the past ten years). As a personal
opinion, I'd recommend omitting all flags (including -v) from a default 'brew
install cantera' and explain options separately. There will always be people
that are new to command line tools and keeping it simple is a plus.
Finally, as pointed out in my initial report, even the windows installation
changed: there is no longer an 'installer' (executable) for numpy. So the
instructions should be updated here as well. Now, it requires installation of
"wheels". It would be helpful if instructions for Cantera windows installation
would include the following after downloading the .whl file:
cd C:\Python34\Scripts
pip install "C:\Users\<yourname>\Downloads\numpy-<appropriate_version>.whl"
As always, thanks for all the work you're putting into maintaining cantera.
Original comment by ischo...@gmail.com
on 26 Feb 2015 at 1:28
The need to run 'brew link --overwrite scons' suggests that a copy of SCons had
already been installed in /usr/local, so perhaps that was not a totally clean
installation. I think users will have to consult the Homebrew documentation if
any issues arise in installing the prerequisites.
The difference with OS X and Windows is that on OS X you are compiling Cantera
from source, so you need all the build dependencies, which include Python 2,
Scons, and Cython. I don't think there's anything in the instructions that
suggests that any of these are optional, but further clarifying this in the
instructions wouldn't hurt.
I included '-v' in the list above just because if there was an error in Cantera
installation, the verbose logs would be helpful in diagnosing the cause. Are
there any other options which are not adequately described in the instructions?
Thank you for pointing out the change in how the pre-compiled Windows packages
are being distributed from Christoph Gohlke's repository. I haven't had to
reinstall Python on a Windows system recently, so I was unaware of this
packaging change, and an update to the instructions is certainly warranted.
Original comment by yarmond
on 26 Feb 2015 at 2:29
Ray,
... the OSX was a 'fresh' update from 10.9, so it could be that scons had
persisted from there. However, I am positive that homebrew hadn't touched the
system before.
The difference between windows installer and OSX makes sense, but it's not
entirely obvious why the cantera compilation toolchain requires both versions
of python (other than perhaps for historic reasons).
Please take this feedback with a grain of salt: I usually can work around these
issues, but facing a class with 15+ students, most of which had trouble
installing cantera, points out that instructions aren't clear in their current
form.
Original comment by ischo...@gmail.com
on 26 Feb 2015 at 2:55
Homebrew may not have touched the system before, but SCons could have been
manually installed in /usr/local (i.e. from previously attempting to build
Cantera).
Python 2 is required because SCons uses Python 2 and has not yet been updated
to work with Python 3. When SCons is eventually updated to work with Python 3,
it should be possible to update the Cantera build scripts to work with either.
Suggestions for improvements to the installation instructions are always
welcome.
Original comment by yarmond
on 26 Feb 2015 at 3:08
Thanks for your explanations: I wasn't aware of scons not supporting python 3
yet. Based on my observations, most students were ok with the Windows
installation after I provided instructions on how to deal with the .whl files.
Everyone got stumped with the OSX installation, hence my report.
Original comment by ischo...@gmail.com
on 26 Feb 2015 at 3:21
Here is a draft of some updates to the instructions for installing on OS X and
Windows:
https://github.com/Cantera/cantera/blob/doc-work/doc/sphinx/install.rst
Please let me know if these address the issues or whether there are any
modifications you would suggest.
Original comment by yarmond
on 26 Feb 2015 at 7:13
Thank you, it is definitely improved. To further enhance, I'd suggest to add
some explanations and number installation steps. I am attaching what I just
posted for my class.
Original comment by ischo...@gmail.com
on 26 Feb 2015 at 10:21
Attachments:
This issue was closed by revision r3414.
Original comment by yarmond
on 28 Feb 2015 at 12:24
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
ischo...@gmail.com
on 25 Feb 2015 at 4:06