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8 months ago All good stuff, and need to unpick SDE, TRE (both the research platform and specific project workspaces) is clear. On the last point re. official accreditation, the NHS SDE network is working on this now. Update of DEA is likely to be some way off (elections and all that) but alignment will be with ISO27001/DSPT etc and they are aware of and likely to align to SATRE (which is helpful). Emily Almond is leading from NHSE - I can sort contact if useful.
drchriscole
Summary
SATRE Working group meeting 27th Feb
Source
Personal Collaboration Cafe input
Detail
Hope this input helps:
In summary • Accreditation requires this to be recognised elsewhere. If this is done then Top priority • Otherwise Sector specific requirements is most important and logical focus • Governance is subordinate to accreditation conclusion and possibly sector specific • No support needed – just orgs having the impetus and reason for doing the assessment
Some thoughts as input against the topics in the agenda:
Sector specific needs in SATRE, for example are there SDE specific requirements? • I think there are SDE related things that are specific to SDEs and not TREs, some are specific to TREs and not SDEs and some are shared. It is nuanced and not simple split, but in essence, for example, things around “Safe Data” is shared but “Safe People” and “Safe Projects” is more TRE than SDE. • I think effort here is highest priority
What do institutions need from us to evaluate their TREs, and what is missing from SATRE? • I did not need anything, the template had enough richness in the descriptions, and the tool clear. The only thought was overlap and connections between sections. But there would always be such overlaps and connections regardless of how the things would be listed / classified. • I think effort here would be less priority.
Governance of SATRE, and should it be a foundation for a larger TRE network? • What would drive a change to the specification – other than sector specific (SDE vs TRE) needs. • I think that the UK TRE community may uncover a need to manage change. • How this specification gets adopted and influences other policy and investment decisions is very important. This I think is under “Offical Accreditation below • Thus I see this a less priority
- Official accreditation • How would this (and any other specification) influence policy and investment decisions? This is a key question and the top priority. • For that to be true then we need bodies that have this accountability (HDR UK / DARE UK) to step into making such actions happen and deploy a national infrastructure (using federation where necessary). • We are already seeing NHS SN-SDE and similar organisations specify a set of accreditations needed to operate as a “TRE” (DEA / DSPT). Adding more is not helpful unless they fit together and cover different parts.
Intended Output
Support the discussions of the working group meeting on 27th Feb 2024
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