script packages for tk, python _tkinter module, update documentation

[mkoeppe]

We add script packages to keep track of system package information for Tcl/tk and the python _tkinter module

https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/source.html#tcl-tk

https://github.com/3-manifolds/fix_mac_sage/tree/master/fix_mac_sage9_2

https://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/download.html

https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/setup.py#L1814

System package info:

• https://repology.org/project/tcl/versions
• https://repology.org/project/tcl-tk/versions
• https://repology.org/project/python3-tkinter/versions

CC: @slel @dimpase @NathanDunfield @culler

Component: packages: optional

Author: Matthias Koeppe

Branch/Commit: u/mkoeppe/script_packages_for_tkpythontkinter_module__update_documentation @ ca1eaf8

Issue created by migration from https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31206

[mkoeppe]

Description changed:

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 https://github.com/3-manifolds/fix_mac_sage/tree/master/fix_mac_sage9_2

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+https://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/download.html

[mkoeppe]

Description changed:

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+We add script packages to keep track of system package information for Tcl/tk and the python `_tkinter` module
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 https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/source.html#tcl-tk

 https://github.com/3-manifolds/fix_mac_sage/tree/master/fix_mac_sage9_2

[mkoeppe]

Description changed:

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 https://github.com/3-manifolds/fix_mac_sage/tree/master/fix_mac_sage9_2

 https://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/download.html
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+https://repology.org/project/tcl/versions
+https://repology.org/project/tcl-tk/versions
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+

[mkoeppe]

Description changed:

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 https://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/download.html

-https://repology.org/project/tcl/versions
-https://repology.org/project/tcl-tk/versions
+System package info:
+- https://repology.org/project/tcl/versions
+- https://repology.org/project/tcl-tk/versions
+- https://repology.org/project/python3-tkinter/versions

[mkoeppe]

Branch: u/mkoeppe/script_packages_for_tkpythontkinter_module__update_documentation

[7ed8c4ca-6d56-4ae9-953a-41e42b4ed313]

Branch pushed to git repo; I updated commit sha1. New commits:

5c05887	build/pkgs/python3_tkinter/spkg-configure.m4: Fixup
89e9f5f	build/pkgs/tcl_tk: New dummy script package

[7ed8c4ca-6d56-4ae9-953a-41e42b4ed313]

Commit: 89e9f5f

[mkoeppe]

Description changed:

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@@ -6,6 +6,8 @@

 https://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/download.html

+https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/setup.py#L1814
+
 System package info:
 - https://repology.org/project/tcl/versions
 - https://repology.org/project/tcl-tk/versions

[7ed8c4ca-6d56-4ae9-953a-41e42b4ed313]

Branch pushed to git repo; I updated commit sha1. This was a forced push. New commits:

4434f4a	build/pkgs/python3_tkinter: New dummy script package
067c3ac	build/pkgs/python3_tkinter/spkg-configure.m4: Fixup
ca1eaf8	build/pkgs/tcl_tk: New dummy script package

[7ed8c4ca-6d56-4ae9-953a-41e42b4ed313]

Changed commit from 89e9f5f to ca1eaf8

[mkoeppe]

Author: Matthias Koeppe

[mkoeppe]

comment:10

Sage development has entered the release candidate phase for 9.3. Setting a new milestone for this ticket based on a cursory review of ticket status, priority, and last modification date.

[dimpase]

comment:14

needs a rebase

[dimpase]

Do you think we need to proceed with this ticket? I'd rather see all this shipped to the system Python.

[mkoeppe]

Do you think we need to proceed with this ticket? I'd rather see all this shipped to the system Python.

That's exactly what the branch does. It only adds dummy packages with spkg-configure, not an installation script.

[dimpase]

This (that one can provide such a dummy package) equally applies to any Python package,not only to Tkinter. So, why bother with any packages not related to Sage?

[mkoeppe]

In #36719, you are adding ad-hoc instructions of what Debian packages to install for Tk. By creating a dummy package with system package information, this will be presented in a more uniform way.

[dimpase]

In #36719, you are adding ad-hoc instructions of what Debian packages to install for Tk. By creating a dummy package with system package information, this will be presented in a more uniform way.

I think our direction is to fully switch to using system Python, no? If so, such a package is obsolete, or will be.

[mkoeppe]

A dummy package is for providing system package information.

i.e. what system package has to be installed that provides Python with a working _tkinter module.

[dimpase]

Why do we care about a Python package which has no interactions with Sage?

[mkoeppe]

Snappy.

[dimpase]

let them worry about having a good for them Python

[mkoeppe]

That's too much "us vs them" for my taste, which is usually not helpful.