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Fast Folders menu counter is off by 1 #386

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 8 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Is it reproducible?
Yes.

If yes, what steps will reproduce the problem?
1. Assign 2-3 locations to Fast Folders
2. Enable a hotkey to open Fast Folders menu
3. Try opening locations 0, 1, or 2 - you'll get nothing, 0, and 1 respectively

What version of the product are you using (Binary/Source/32/64bit)? On what
operating system (XP,Vista,7,32/64bit)?
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 6.1.7601 x64
7plus 2.5.0 x64

Please provide any additional information below.
See the attached video for demonstration

Original issue reported on code.google.com by denbara...@gmail.com on 8 Aug 2012 at 2:48

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
This issue won't exist in the next version as this menu isn't there anymore. 
Instead, similar functionality exists in the Accessor window and will (maybe) 
be added to the clipboard manager menu.

Original comment by fragman@gmail.com on 8 Aug 2012 at 7:46

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Too bad that you're moving this functionality to the Accessor window. It feels 
rather sluggish in the current version. Moreover, the menu is very handy for 
quick access (had it worked properly: right now it doesn't remove deleted 
entries & doesn't work when another app is active).

Original comment by denbara...@gmail.com on 8 Aug 2012 at 1:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I did this because I didn't see any additional value provided by this menu. 
Fast Folders are accessible by:
1) Pressing Numpad buttons in Explorer and other navigable windows
2) Using the buttons in the Explorer bar (Vista/7) and the buttons in file 
open/save dialogs
3) Using the clipboard manager menu. This will also allow to paste the path.
4) Through Accessor. Next version is faster and supports about three different 
methods to access them:
  - Through buttons on the GUI (they show numbers only, path is shown in footer of the window)
  - By typing a part of their name and executing the result
  - Through Numpad buttons

I think that these methods should suffice for quick access to these directories 
and so I didn't want to have any more for simplicity. 7plus is already complex 
enough for most users and the features need to be merged where possible for a 
better coherence of the program IMO.

Original comment by fragman@gmail.com on 8 Aug 2012 at 1:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
By the way, here's an image of the new Accessor:
http://i.imgur.com/B2xTE.png

Original comment by fragman@gmail.com on 8 Aug 2012 at 1:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Got a few questions about it:
1) Are the plugins (or whatever the left section of the top row is) assigned to 
numbered slots? If not, show only the assigned ones and the plus spot to the 
right. Same thing goes for the second row.
2) Why are icons in the top left section black and white? Are the customizable?
3) Number slots must be wider. People will generally access them with a 
diagonal mouse movement and square shape ensures sufficient active zone in all 
directions (see Fitts's Law).
4) This implementation of folder access loses an important function: see the 
name of the folder associated with the number.
5) Info about the item under the cursor and the edit/settings button are too 
far away from the item. Try moving the status bar to the top of the dialog, 
right under the assigned slots.
6) Why is the column with the decimal numbers not have a title?

P.S. I'm a UX designer. =)

Original comment by denbara...@gmail.com on 8 Aug 2012 at 2:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
The top left row represents queries of the edit box above. Clicking one of 
these buttons will enter a text. These can be fully customized (icon+text) but 
don't have any hotkeys assigned to it right now. The buttons for programs and 
Fast Folders have assigned hotkeys though. If I were to condense them and only 
show the plus spot on the right it would be difficult to order them. However, 
in the release version these buttons will come pre-assigned to useful queries 
so they won't be empty usually. The style of the icons is just for artistic 
reason so they fit with the background color and the color of the FastFolder 
buttons on the right. This is not possible for program buttons of course which 
use the program icons.

3) This is mostly due to limited space and because I tend to access them by 
Numpad most of the time. I'd like to make them larger, but I don't see how to 
do so without bigger changes to the design.

4) It's visible only when mouse hovers over it, that's true. Again, this is 
mostly due to available space in the window.

5) This status bar also displays information about the selected items in the 
list and general usage information depending on context. Do you think it would 
be fitting for this as well?

6) The decimal numbers there are only visible in the debug version and 
represent the weighting in the sort order of the items. In release versions 
there is some text that describes the type of the item most of the time. 
However, as this varies from plugin to plugin a caption would not fit all 
results. The window switcher plugin displays CPU usage there for example.
If a plugin is in single context mode (only results from this plugin are shown) 
it will display a custom name there when appropriate.

Original comment by fragman@gmail.com on 8 Aug 2012 at 2:43

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
1) I gotta see how it works as I don't understand your description of the 
relationship between the queries and services in the top left section.

2) Are the icons customizable though? The consistent look of the screenshot is 
great but if users add their own content and it breaks the design, it's not 
good.

3) I feel like the Accessor window would need some redesign overall. It seems 
to me that you're duplicating functions that exist elsewhere without 
simplifying them (I may be wrong as this is based on 2.5.0, the screenshot, and 
your description).

5) It all depends on the function of that "status bar" and the behavior of the 
list. If it's a regular status bar, it can stay where it is as long as the size 
of the list is fixed (i.e. a scroll bar appears when there're more items than 
can fit the view). Otherwise, you may want to switch everything to tooltips for 
more contextual relevancy. Also, does the cog wheel open general settings or 
contextual settings?

Original comment by denbara...@gmail.com on 12 Aug 2012 at 9:25

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
To 1)
The buttons in the top left row basically just set the text in the edit box to 
a predefined string, so they can have multiple purposes, depending on what 
string is used. On the image I posted above the second icon will go in 
calculator mode (basically just writing "=" at the beginning so you can enter 
formulas), while the others further right are used to launch web searches (e.g. 
the wikipedia button will write "w " and you can enter a search term after it.
You could also create a button to show the contents of a specific directory 
which would simply enter the directory path in the edit box and similar things.

2) All icons you see there are customizable. They can be set to other icons in 
the program, alternatively the files can be replaced.

3) Which functions do you mean? Accessor is meant to serve as a place to access 
(pun intended) all kinds of things. The Fast Folders for example can just as 
well be configured and accessed in Explorer, but Accessor provides an easy 
interface to modify and use them anywhere. The program/file/folder buttons on 
the second row could also be created with hotkeys through the event system, but 
I think they're fitting for a launcher (though I'm really only using the 
keyboard myself as I know all commands by heart... ;) ).

5)The bar is meant to display context sensitive information and in some case 
additional actions. Right now this only includes a hyperlink to set the default 
weather location. The size of the list is fixed and it uses a vertical scroll 
bar.
Tooltips are also used on the buttons and to show complete text of the entries 
in the list when the fields are too narrow. The cog wheel opens the Accessor 
settings, but not separated for each plugin. I think the icon would be 
confusing for this, but it might be good to be able to access a plugin's 
settings directly, that's true. Any suggestions?

Original comment by fragman@gmail.com on 13 Aug 2012 at 9:56