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Y24-419 (To triage) Y24-420 (To triage) Y24-422 (WIP - waiting on Liz’s answers) Y24-425 (To triage)
Liz Huckle, Liz Cook (SSR) Odion A (eDAM2 developer) Laura B (LeGo, Data Access Officer) Melanie Sharp (DAA) Kalia Dede/ Mugdha K (HumGen/ GenGen) Quan Lin (Data submission team) Francesca Beaton, Ali Hitchborn (CellGen)
Further reading Accessioning overview in Sequencescape Data Sharing and Data Access Agreements (FRED) Data access via eDAM* eDAM2 guidance for Research Managers Sequencescape Study creation UAT
To read HumGen Data Sharing GenGen Data Sharing eDAM2 FAQs Open Access Science eDAM2 External eDAM2 Internal
Outdated questions from stories. Move here to not clutter stories
Y24-419 Questions
Liz:
in_edam
eDAM question is the question we use for the toggle as to whether this eDAM section should be shown? If so, what would you like to do with the questions to show when in_edam
is “No” (non_sanger_dac_notes
and non_sanger_dac_details
)?PSD
Please see PSD Google Sheet with DAA fields cells in Red, for those under discussion
Answers
Re: your Qs from 2 weeks ago (sorry, I don't know how to reply directly to that message!!) For Qs 1 and 2, I want to ensure it's clear that this information will be used externally to SS, so to me "ENA/EGA requirement" sounds good, but I think Odion might have a better idea of the correct specific wording there.
Q4: yes, that toggle sounds great. Please keep those other 2 fields of "non_sanger_dac_notes" and "non_sanger_dac_details" and we will just fill them in if we have that info.
Q5: happy for the eDAM fields to appear on the main study page in whichever order they are listed when filling them in - no real preference on this at all
Y24-419 Questions
Currently in Sequencescape Study set up, there is a Study Name
field. Is this linked to the eDAM field Study Title
? Would you like the “Hint” for this field in eDAM adding to Sequencescape?
Regarding the Study Name field, I think so, but I can't say for sure. This is the query we run to get the studies from the MLWH: "select id_study_lims, description, accession_number, study_title, faculty_sponsor from study where data_release_strategy='managed' ", so it depends on whether the Study Name field in Sequencescape is inserted into the study table in the MLWH as study_title. Regarding the Hint, you can leave that out.
Currently in Sequencescape Study set up, under ENA specific questions there is a Title
(study_study_title
) and Study Description
(study_description
). Is the Study Description
in eDAM different (not ENA specific), and if so, shall a new field for “Study Description" to the Sequencescape Study set up page? What would you like the text to show, and what would you like the field in MLWH to be?:
The Study Description in eDAM comes from the 'description' field in the study table in the MLWH. I think it's the ENA specific question, but I can't say for sure.
The same field name collabs
refers to both name an institution. Should these fields be seperated to collabs_name
and collabs_institution
?:
No, leave as it is (see response to next question below)
There is a note in "eDAM DAA setup questions” - “Users must be able to add multiple collabs”. How would you like this to be persisted in the study
table in MLWH? If there is more than one collaborator?
Might be best to save it as a json array, so something like this: [ { collabName: "", collabInstitute: "" }, { collabName: "", collabInstitute: "" } ]. We can have a call to discuss this.
Is want_pub_delay
needed? For example, could this field be removed and only the publish_delay
field used, and set to 12 as default?:
Yeah, it can be removed.
ega_dataset_accession_numbers
What input is required for "Known EGA Dataset Accession numbers for this study”. What type is it? Is it required? It is missing from "eDAM DAA setup questions” Google Sheet below
No input is required for this because the RMs don't enter this information. These are the datasets linked to the study, eDAM pulls these datasets from the EGA archive and displays them on this question.
What is the “Hint” text for each field? Please can it be added to the Google Sheet (see eDAM fields below) Do not all fields have a “Hint”?:
Not all fields have hints.
Can we separate non_sanger_dac_notes
into two serpate fields non_sanger_dac_name
and non_sanger_dac_email
?:
Yes this would be fine, it might make it a bit clearer and would be useful to ensure we have both the name and email address.
Could dao_send_to_giselle
and dao_send_to
be combined, to just be one field dao_send_to
? By default the email is datasharing@sanger
, or if not, input another email? Assume email requires .ac.uk
? Then don't have a users name in a field.
Yeah, I'm happy with that, if Laura is happy with it as well As far as I know this should always be the datasharing mailbox, so yes it should default to this but have an option for something else just in case of odd situations.
Can ez1_to_approve
be removed? And sanger_approve_by
become one field? Which defaults to Sarion B email, or the manually entered email? Could ez1
’s address be replaces with a non-personal / role level? (incase Sarion B ever left the institute). Also, in "eDAM DAA setup questions” doc it says Display when option 1 is selected for ez1_to_approve
, is this correct, or should it display when “No” is selected for ez1_to_approve
?:
Yeah, you can merge the fields, if Laura is happy with that. Regarding replacing Sarion's email with a role, we can discuss how that would work. You're right, it should be Option 2, I've updated the google sheet. As long as the approvals still go to Sarion then this is fine. If she left then I guess we would just update this to the email address of whoever took over doing approvals from her.
In "eDAM DAA setup questions” doc it says Display when option 1 is selected for in_edam
, is this correct, or should it display when “No” is selected for in_edam
?
It should display when "No" is selected, I've updated the google sheet.
Is approved_by_lego
okay? A “yes”/ “No” input? Is the text description okay, or would you like anything adding? e.g. “Confirm this study has been approved by LeGo and added to eDAM2 internal”. Would you like this to be nearer the start of the form? If “No”, can the user still submit the Study in Sequencescape?.
Could you clarify what role this question plays when answered?
Would you like all these questions to be in their own group, within the Study setup page? Where exactly would you like them to go on the form (at the bottom/ top etc?):
If they could appears in SS in the same order as they appear in eDAM2 that would be good I think. So this would be below the study title and description sections.
Are all these questions only required if the Studies release strategy is EGA, or ENA, or Both (ie would these questions only want to appear if EGA/ENA checkbox is selected in Sequencescape set up form?):
These questions are only needed for managed access data held in EGA (not ENA), and only those using the standard WSI DAA (so if they’re using a different DAA like the DDD or CGP ones for example, then the questions aren’t needed).
Y24-420 Questions
Odion:
[x] How is best to put a story in to the eDAMs dev cycle, requesting the ability for eDAM to pull in data from MLWH UAT DB? A: You don't need to put a story in, once we are ready to pull from the MLWH UAT DB, i'll implement this on the eDAM2 dev
[x] In Sequencescape's Study edit page, we are going to add a note saying something like: “If you would like to update any of the eDAM required fields, please update these in eDAM directly.” Have you a URL for a Test and Production environment we can link to from this page, to make it easier for the users to update the fields in eDAM? A: Internal eDAM2 dev: (https://edam-internal.dev.sanger.ac.uk/#/). Internal eDAM2 live: (https://edam-admin.sanger.ac.uk/#/)
Y24-422 Questions
Liz:
Answers
HI Harriet - in answer to your Qs for me above: Q1 - yes, a button on the right hand side to allow "Bulk study upload from csv" would be perfect. Note that we still want to be able to do a study creation as we do at the moment by filling in each individual box - this would be an additional feature. We also still want to be able to edit individual fields for a study like we can at the moment Q2 - good Q!! If there are changes that we need to make to the info we collect for studies, we will ensure we let psd know (I assume raise a new story for new fields that we need). Do we need to do any more than that?
Description As Legal we would like to ensure the Data Access Agreements actually used for Studies are synchronised with the Electronic Data Access Management (EDAM) system to avoid delays in granting access.
Additional context or information When data has been released to the EBI, external researchers will ask to access it and then the EBI will ask the Sanger Legal team permission to grant it. Too often the data access agreement is unknown to the Legal and Governance Team resulting in delays in releasing data to external researchers.
To help mitigate this we want to create a set of user stories to achieve the following:
A couple of things to note:
Acceptance Criteria The following outputs from the research are produced:
Who the primary contacts are for this work Laura B (Data Access Officer) Mugdha K (Graduate Associate) Liz C (SSR) Odion A (Senior Web Developer) - EDAM
Knowledge or Stake holders Other people that may have specific knowledge about this work or have a stake in how it is implemented. e.g. John Smith is an expert on x