Convention 1.2 violations

[drdhaval2785]

While examininig the convention 1.2 in the hwnorm1 repository

The following results were obtained which contain potential suspect words. txt and html

HTML file to be downloaded locally. It has links to webpage and PDF of the word in that dictionary.

Total of 65 entries to examine

aQaMQolayat:SCH
aMBikANkzA:CAE
araMDuza:AP
arkaMparRa:SHS
arjunaMcCavi:SHS
AMBu:CAE
utkaMpitA:SCH
OqupiMka:AP
kacawatapagajaqaMdaba:PW
kalakaRWiMkA:CAE
kavirAjavasuMGara:PW
keSapaMkti:SHS
guMkvaRa:MW
GarmiMta:CAE
caMdanIyA:AP
cUcuMka:CAE
jagaJaMpaRa:SCH
jaMpatI:PW
jaMpatI:PWG
jamBaMjamBam:MW
jAMDita:MW
jAyaMpatI:PW
jitaMte:PW
JaMkAtin:CCS
JaMJA:MD
tarupaMkti:SHS
tarupaMkti:WIL
tAwaMkati:SCH
devavadDaMki:SHS
dvaMda:MW
dvaMda:PW
dvaMda:PWG
dvaMdaBUta:PW
pakzaMbfhat:SCH
pacaMbacA:PW
paYcajitaMte:MW
paYcajitaMte:PW
pAzaMqatA:CCS
pratibiMba:CCS
pratibiMbita:CCS
BaMBaH:AP
BIMti:CAE
BeMpura:PWG
BrAMtar:CCS
mAMkis:CCS
mimaMkzA:AP
mruMca:WIL
vAMgguRa:PWG
visPuliMga:WIL
SilaMDira:PWG
SiliMDra:PW
SItIMBAva:PW
SraMB:CAE
SrOtAMqabilA:MW
sAmagAnAMCandas:MW
sArvaMBOmam:AP
sumuRqIMka:PW
suMbrahman:CCS
suSlizwamaMDi:PW
sfMjayAH:AP
strISUdrAdInAMdevArcanavicAra:MW
svaDIMti:PWG
havirAhuMti:CAE
huMBA:AP
hEMqimba:PWG

[drdhaval2785]

sch:aQaMQolayat:aQaMQolayat:n:Questionable form marked by dictionary itself. Leave it as it is.
cae:aMBikANkzA:aBikANkzA:t:print smudge
ap:araMDuza:araMGuza:t:Confusion of G and D in Sanskrit. 'Sounding loudly' has more relevance to 'Guz'.
shs:arkaMparRa:arkaparRa:t:print smudge
shs:arjunaMcCavi:arjunacCavi:t:pring smudge

[drdhaval2785]

cae:AMBu:ABu:t:pring smudge
sch:utkaMpitA:utkampitA:t:c
ap:OqupiMka:Oqupika:t:pring smudge
pw:kacawatapagajaqaMdaba:kacawatapagajaqadaba:t:
cae:kalakaRWiMkA:kalakaRWikA:t:print smudge. MW and PW has kalakaRWikA

[drdhaval2785]

pw:kavirAjavasuMGara:kavirAjavasuMDara:t:D and G confusion.
shs:keSapaMkti:keSapaNkti:t:convention error. SHS has paNkti as headword.
mw:guMkvaRa:guMkvaRa:n:It is because 'guM' is a headword and 'kvaRa' is subentry. Not as a conjoint entry.
cae:GarmiMta:Garmita:t:print smudge
ap:caMdanIyA:candanIyA:t:c

[drdhaval2785]

cae:cUcuMka:cUcuka:t:print smudge
sch:jagaJaMpaRa:jagaJampaRa:t:Convention error. The entry is marked by ? by author.
pw:jaMpatI:jampatI:t:c
pwg:jaMpatI:jampatI:t:c
mw:jamBaMjamBam:jamBaMjamBam:n:Compound word.

[drdhaval2785]

mw:jAMDita:jAMDita:n:compound
pw:jAyaMpatI:jAyampatI:t:c
pw:jitaMte:jitaMte:n:compound
ccs:JaMkAtin:JaMkArin:t:JaM seems to be a valid thing. Many dictionaries are having this. So keeping it as it is.
md:JaMJA:JaMJA:n:

[drdhaval2785]

shs:tarupaMkti:tarupaNkti:t:c
wil:tarupaMkti:tarupaNkti:t:c
sch:tAwaMkati:tAwaNkati:t:c
shs:devavadDaMki:devavardDaki:t:vardDaki is carpenter.
mw:dvaMda:dvaMda:n:compound
pw:dvaMda:dvaMda:n:compund
pwg:dvaMda:dvaMda:n:compound
pw:dvaMdaBUta:dvaMdaBUta:n:compound

[drdhaval2785]

sch:pakzaMbfhat:pakzaMbfhat:n:compound. Also the author marked it with '!'
pw:pacaMbacA:pacaMbacA:n:compound
mw:paYcajitaMte:paYcajitaMte:n:compound
pw:paYcajitaMte:paYcajitaMte:n:compound
ccs:pAzaMqatA:pAzaRqatA:t:print has R
ccs:pratibiMba:pratibimba:t:
ccs:pratibiMbita:pratibimbita:t:

[drdhaval2785]

ap:BaMBaH:BaMBaH:n:Seems a valid word
cae:BIMti:BIti:t:print smudge

[gasyoun]

Halfway done?

[drdhaval2785]

Yes. Will complete this in single issue. Maybe on monday. Only 65 entries to be checked.

[funderburkjim]

@drdhaval2785 These are some places where I think the 'new' cases had typos. I'll use the 2nd forms as indicated, unless you say otherwise.

Re ap:araMDuza:araMDuza:t:Confusion of G and D in Sanskrit. I think you meant ap:araMDuza:araMGuza:t:Confusion of G and D in Sanskrit.

Re shs:arkaMparRa:arkaMparRa:t:print smudge. I think you meant (no M) shs:arkaMparRa:arkaparRa:t:print smudge

Re cae:GarmiMta:GarmiMta:t:print smudge I think you meant (no M) cae:GarmiMta:Garmita:t:print smudge

Re ap:caMdanIyA:caMdanIyA:t:c I think you meant ap:caMdanIyA:candanIyA:t:c

Re pw:jitaMte:jitante:n:compound I think you meant pw:jitaMte:jitaMte:n:compound

Re ccs:pratibiMbita:pratibinbita:t: I think you meant ccs:pratibiMbita:pratibimbita:t:

[funderburkjim]

Not yet ready for installation. I like the technique of presenting in 'standard form'.

[gasyoun]

With bolding even better.

[drdhaval2785]

https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon/CORRECTIONS/issues/171#issuecomment-164578939 I agree with all of them. Made corresponding corrections in the original submissions too. Must have been in deep sleep while typing. So many typos in typo correction :)

[drdhaval2785]

43 to 45

pwg:BeMpura:BeMpura:n:Name of a location. Maybe influenced by local pronounciation.
ccs:BrAMtar:BrAtar:t:Accent mark wrongly read as anusvAra
ccs:mAMkis:mAkis:t:Accent mark wrongly read as anusvAra

[drdhaval2785]

46 to 50

ap:mimaMkzA:mimaMkzA:n:Not sure. This is a verb derivation. Maybe M is justified.
wil:mruMca:mruMca:n:Dictionary has both mruMca and mruYca in the entry
pwg:vAMgguRa:vAgguRa:t:print smudge
wil:visPuliMga:visPuliNga:t:Convention error. WIL has 'liNga' as headword and not 'liMga'.
pwg:SilaMDira:SilaMDira:n:Dictionary itself says that it is 'wohl fehlerhaft' i.e. 'probably erraneous'.

[drdhaval2785]

51 to 55

pw:SiliMDra:SiliMDra:n:Compound. 'wohl fehlerhaft'
pw:SItIMBAva:SItIMBAva:n:w
cae:SraMB:SraMB:n:Verb. Both reading in explanation.
mw:SrOtAMqabilA:SrOtAMqabilA:t:
mw:sAmagAnAMCandas:sAmagAnAMCandas:n:Two words

[drdhaval2785]

56 to 60

ap:sArvaMBOmam:sArvaBOmam:t:No anusvAra
pw:sumuRqIMka:sumuRqIka:t:
ccs:suMbrahman:subrahman:t:accent anusvAra confusion
pw:suSlizwamaMDi:suSlizwasaMDi:t:sam has the tendency to generate 'M' all across dictionaries.
ap:sfMjayAH:sfMjayAH:n:Compound

[drdhaval2785]

61 to 65

mw:strISUdrAdInAMdevArcanavicAra:strISUdrAdInAMdevArcanavicAra:n:Two words
pwg:svaDIMti:svaDIMti:t:print smudge
cae:havirAhuMti:havirAhuti:t:print smudge
ap:huMBA:huMBA:n:Compound
pwg:hEMqimba:hEMqimba:t:print smudge

[drdhaval2785]

@zaaf2 Please review the corrections. @funderburkjim - From my side the submission is over. When found OK, you may install the corrections.

The submission in standard format is https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon/hwnorm1/blob/master/proberrors/12submission.txt If you want to save labor of searching thread and copy pasting.

[zaaf2]

Re shs:arjunaMcCavi:arjunacCavi:t:print smudge

Perhaps it is a print/lexicographer error, since the word Devanagari order is correct:

Cf. MW, where arjunacCavi comes before arjunatas:

[zaaf2]

Re:

ap:caMdanIyA:candanIyA:t:c
sch:jagaJaMpaRa:jagaJampaRa:t:Convention error. The entry is marked by ? by author.
pwg:jaMpatI:jampatI:t:c
wil:tarupaMkti:tarupaNkti:t:c
sch:tAwaMkati:tAwaNkati:t:c
wil:visPuliMga:visPuliNga:t:Convention error. WIL has 'liNga' as headword and not 'liMga'.

These are not ‘t’ errors, but a ‘p’ incorrect (alternative?) way to represent the nasal before a dental or a labial.

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Re pw:jAyaMpatI:jAyampatI:t:c The dictionary has jAyaMpatI as perhaps only an incorrect form for जायापती (wohl nur fehlerhaft für जायापती)

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Re mw:SrOtAMqabilA:SrOtAMqabilA:t: You mean: mw:SrOtAMqabilA: SrOtARqabilA:t:

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Re ap:sArvaMBOmam:sArvaBOmam:t:No anusvAra Confirmation: Apte Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary, revised edition

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Re pwg:svaDIMti:svaDIMti:t:print smudge You mean: pwg:svaDIMti:svaDIti:t:print smudge

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Re pwg:hEMqimba:hEMqimba:t:print smudge You mean: pwg:hEMqimba:hEqimba:t:print smudge

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End of review.

[drdhaval2785]

@zaaf2 I agree with your proposal of having p for convention error. It even is documented in the standard here, but due to my oversight, they were marked 't'. Great catch. I am trying to make myself accustomed to submission in standard format. These are teething problems.

I disagree with your suggestion regarding treating arjunaMcCavi as a lexicographer error also. The cause is that the order is wrong in both readings. Even if it is sorted as arjunaMcCavi or arjunaYcCavi or arjunacCavi, it deserves to be placed before arjunatas. M-c-Y-t is the alphabetical order in Devanagari for relevant letters. But yes, it is also alphabetical misordering. Noted it in the comment. shs:arjunaMcCavi:arjunacCavi:t:print smudge. Also alphabetic misordering. See https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon/CORRECTIONS/issues/171#issuecomment-164723191

Now the file https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon/hwnorm1/blob/master/proberrors/12submission.txt has the file updated per zaaf2's suggestions. @funderburkjim may please use this file.

[funderburkjim]

Used the 12sumbission.txt for changes. 10 dictionaries involved.

All changes installed, s3 backups made.

[zaaf2]

@drdhaval2785 M-c-Y-t is the alphabetical order in Devanagari

You are right. If M in arjunaMcCavi should represent the nasal adapted to the following consonant, it would correspond to Y, and the word would be placed before arjunatas. I wrongly considered M in this case to represent m, which of course comes after t. Thanks.