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Index to names in the Mahabharata
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Space Missing (1000 names2 --> 1000 names 2) #8

Open gasyoun opened 2 years ago

gasyoun commented 2 years ago

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@funderburkjim can we add a spacing before supperscript numbers as per original, please?

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Andhrabharati commented 2 years ago

Print has no space before these superscripts; there might be exceptions, but they would be very less (and, I guess, by error).

gasyoun commented 2 years ago

Print has no space before these superscripts

Wrong, it has space. And should have by all rules.

Andhrabharati commented 2 years ago

Speaking of rules, just did a quick survey and found that there is no consistency or universally accepted style across the world.

But this, from the Chicago Style Manual, is what I understand to be accepted across many countries in the present days--

PLACEMENT OF THE SUPERSCRIPT IN THE TEXT Leave no space between the superscript (note number) in the text and the word or mark of punctuation it follows. Place the superscript before a dash but after all other marks of punctuation.

However, looked at the INM print again now, and seen that the space before the superscript is NOT that "clearly visible" always, but, as I had mentioned above, there seem to be no space more often than not!

Andhrabharati commented 2 years ago

See the "space" in blue and the "gap" before the superscript in red, in the examples below-

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Andhrabharati commented 2 years ago

In summary, I think, the "gap" before the superscript is not the same as a regular "space"; but far less in width, and could be termed as a mini- or micro-space!!

Andhrabharati commented 2 years ago

Here are some screenshots from Mayrhofer's dictionary, which I am currently working at--

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I think Marcis treats this Mayrhofer's dictionary as a standard work, and wonder what he has to say now!!

Andhrabharati commented 2 years ago

Just found this post by @gasyoun (https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon/GreekInSanskrit/issues/21#issue-225196460) some 5 years back, wherein he apparently had a different view about the superscripts in the same INM work, or was oblivious of the point (that he raised now) those days!

Incidentally, the above referred one and many more issues across various CDSL repos could be closed, as they were "handled" already (mostly in some other threads); wonder if someone is interested doing the same.

gasyoun commented 2 years ago

Leave no space between the superscript (note number) in the text

Chicago Style Manual is not written by typesetters for sure.

wonder if someone is interested doing the same.

Can you, please?

I think Marcis treats this Mayrhofer's dictionary as a standard work, and wonder what he has to say now!!

It's a different case. What I meant is at end of a word.

In summary, I think, the "gap" before the superscript is not the same as a regular "space"; but far less in width, and could be termed as a mini- or micro-space!!

Exactly, now you start to understand. But in web we have only one space, not as in book printing - 8 types of.

Andhrabharati commented 2 years ago

In summary, I think, the "gap" before the superscript is not the same as a regular "space"; but far less in width, and could be termed as a mini- or micro-space!!

Exactly, now you start to understand. But in web we have only one space, not as in book printing - 8 types of.

Unicode has provision for several kinds of spaces, not just one! See, for example-- https://jkorpela.fi/chars/spaces.html

I guess, the "narrow no-break space | U+202F |" might suit here, if need to have a space at all.

drdhaval2785 commented 1 year ago

Any consensus reached, @gasyoun or @Andhrabharati ?

Andhrabharati commented 1 year ago

@drdhaval2785

No space, as per conventions that I am aware of, before any such superscript.

And I already mentioned above that INM print also mostly has no space, though occasional micro-space could be seen as exception.

gasyoun commented 1 year ago

occasional micro-space could be seen as exception.

It was until 20th century, when people started making books with legs.

Any consensus reached

spacing before superscript is what I still believe in @drdhaval2785